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Post by penny on Dec 16, 2007 15:22:07 GMT 1
The really stupid people are those who: 1. Thinks it really matters who wins and that this will decide what happens to them afterwards. 2. Thinks it is more than just Saturday night entertainment. Rhydian just did not "perform" in the final. Was probably listening too much to the advice of "cut the gimmicks and just stand there and give a straight performance". That worked when they did one song. But when he had to sing 4 songs and made them all sound the same, the public obviously turned against him. I also think that SD fans may have changed their allegiance to Leon after SD went out, so he may have picked up some votes there. I think many found Rhydian turned rather boring and Leon's duet with Kylie was actually far more entertaining. Why couldn't Rhydian have done an uptempo opera song? Ever heard of Libiamo? Actually I think he needed a better mentor than Dannii, and I don't mean any of the others in that set, I mean someone who knows opera. I assume when you say that Rhydian "didn`t perform" that you think Leon did ? Leon will have a shorter "career" than Steve Brookstein and will be back stocking the shelves in Gap this time next year
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Post by Scott on Dec 16, 2007 15:22:57 GMT 1
Very pleased with the result. I would have prefered Same Difference but sooo happy it wasn't Rhydian. He really isn't as good as the judges say he is. I suppose both he and Same Difference will release an album for Mother's Day, assuming that he agrees to it. It wouldn't suprise me if he abondoned the show completely.
Leon was the best on the night and the single is more suited to him than Rhydian. I hope When You Believe sells well, just so Leon has a big boost for his career. If it underperforms, he will get slated and he honestly doesn't deserve it. It's not a great song, like all the X-Factor singles, but it's nice enough.
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Post by penny on Dec 16, 2007 15:24:01 GMT 1
I am flabbergasted by this decision... The idea that Leon is anywhere in the same league as Rhydian is shameful. He is just a dull Buble wannabe who just won because he's cuter and he cried at the right moments. I preferred SD over him because their performance of 'Any Dream will Do' was like being on drugs - so surreal! Mind you, I really think Rhydian will do a G4 and smash Leon's sales in the long term. And he won't have that godawful song to release as his first single. I just can't understand how the public have got it so strikingly and embarrasingly wrong. I was almost in tears over this. But this willl make me become a big supporter of Rhydian in the future because he will have to make it on raw talent and guts. You should read the various X Factor Forums.............flooded with angry people at the injustice of it
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Post by ManicKangaroo on Dec 16, 2007 15:32:50 GMT 1
yeah but the majority of the people on DS are loons
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Post by ManicKangaroo on Dec 16, 2007 15:33:16 GMT 1
and it not injustice, he won fair and square
Sounds like sour grapes to me
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Post by Earl Purple on Dec 16, 2007 15:34:00 GMT 1
I've read a few but perhaps I'm not as bothered with it as you are. Whoever won would not really have a major effect on my music-buying habits of 2008.
I am not going to bother to download Leon's "When You Believe". If he does make a career out of what he really wants to do, i.e. jazz/swing music I may buy some of that if it's any good. In the first series I thought G4 were far superior to Steve Brookstein but really their single of Bohemian Rhapsody was more painful to listen to than Steve's dull cover of Against All Odds. Whilst it sounded somewhat entertaining performed on the show, as a recorded track it didn't appeal to me at all as I want new music.
I'd rather post about the "injustice" of all the real artists out there making better music than they are that don't even get a mention, that iTunes doesn't even have a new release list so people can actually see what is out, etc. That the chart is so "manufactured" that Leon will walk it to #1 no matter how bad it is (and I think even Leon himself would admit it is, that it's not his style and he didn't really want to record it).
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Post by Toy Toy's Boy on Dec 16, 2007 15:47:06 GMT 1
I am flabbergasted by this decision... The idea that Leon is anywhere in the same league as Rhydian is shameful. He is just a dull Buble wannabe who just won because he's cuter and he cried at the right moments. I preferred SD over him because their performance of 'Any Dream will Do' was like being on drugs - so surreal! Mind you, I really think Rhydian will do a G4 and smash Leon's sales in the long term. And he won't have that godawful song to release as his first single. I just can't understand how the public have got it so strikingly and embarrasingly wrong. I was almost in tears over this. But this willl make me become a big supporter of Rhydian in the future because he will have to make it on raw talent and guts. LMFAO. Anyone who's so devastated by the injustice of the X-Factor that they were almost in tears over it really shows that those trying to denegrate Leon's success are crazy. It's a TV show and both are getting careers out of it. It's win, win! Surely it's the Same Difference fans who should be upset?
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Post by musicfan2000 on Dec 16, 2007 15:59:01 GMT 1
why qare people trying to degenerate leon success,get over it rhydian lost,he can have his opera career and let leon develop as a singer,would love to see him do a duet with danni
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Post by Scott on Dec 16, 2007 16:09:35 GMT 1
and it not injustice, he won fair and square Sounds like sour grapes to me That's exactly how I see it.
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Post by zigzag on Dec 16, 2007 16:16:17 GMT 1
why qare people trying to degenerate leon success,get over it rhydian lost,he can have his opera career and let leon develop as a singer,would love to see him do a duet with danni They can flop together then
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Post by Chris on Dec 16, 2007 16:19:48 GMT 1
yeah but the majority of the people on DS are loons Excuse me James. I resent that comment. I post on there.
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Post by Earl Purple on Dec 16, 2007 16:21:32 GMT 1
Some have also said that Rhydian should not have been allowed to enter because he was a professionally trained singer and it is supposed to be a show for amateurs (like Leon).
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Post by Chris on Dec 16, 2007 16:23:51 GMT 1
Rhydian did the far better version of When You Believe and should have won for that reason. The vocals were far more powerful than Leon's.
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Post by Mart!n on Dec 16, 2007 16:46:53 GMT 1
I'm still in shock with Leon winning the title last night, as for his career, it will be short lived, who out of their minds voted for Leon who is as stiff as a plank of wood, he has no charisma and lacks confidence. As for the single its dull as anything, but the Scots will buy it in droves, not many people are happy with the winner, but we have to live with it. I don't think it be a big seller, probably around 220k.
I really wanted SD to win it for some reason just to wipe Louis smug face, I can't stand the git.
And that's my opinion, before someone shoots me down for it.
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Post by Robin on Dec 16, 2007 16:48:14 GMT 1
Some have also said that Rhydian should not have been allowed to enter because he was a professionally trained singer and it is supposed to be a show for amateurs (like Leon). Well Leon is definitely an amateur. I've heard better voices at the local karaoke evenings!
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Post by penny on Dec 16, 2007 16:59:17 GMT 1
yeah but the majority of the people on DS are loons That`s a very sweeping statement to make - on what do you make that assumption ?
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Post by ManicKangaroo on Dec 16, 2007 17:01:13 GMT 1
I can read
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Post by penny on Dec 16, 2007 17:01:18 GMT 1
yeah but the majority of the people on DS are loons Excuse me James. I resent that comment. I post on there. And so do I..............I think we need an apology from James
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Post by ManicKangaroo on Dec 16, 2007 17:02:04 GMT 1
Rhydian did the far better version of When You Believe and should have won for that reason. The vocals were far more powerful than Leon's. You really have no ear for music at all do you? He was singing in, what seemed to be, the wrong key
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Post by penny on Dec 16, 2007 17:04:28 GMT 1
I'm still in shock with Leon winning the title last night, as for his career, it will be short lived, who out of their minds voted for Leon who is as stiff as a plank of wood, he has no charisma and lacks confidence. As for the single its dull as anything, but the Scots will buy it in droves, not many people are happy with the winner, but we have to live with it. I don't think it be a big seller, probably around 220k. I really wanted SD to win it for some reason just to wipe Louis smug face, I can't stand the git. And that's my opinion, before someone shoots me down for it. And don`t forget we have the Scots to blame for inflicting Michelle McManus and David Sneddon on us
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