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Post by toyboy18 on Jul 12, 2004 14:13:50 GMT 1
I love this album. It has to be one of her best of all time it sounds like she was really horny the entire album, and what in the hell is she saying in :Sexual Feelings?? I know its french I dont have any clue how it translates. But I just wanna see what u guys think of the album. For those that have it. Although she did make me shiver on the "SOMEWHERE" beginning it was kinda rocky startin out. I think the album is a TOY CLASSIC, Playboy, be my lover, you and me, and hes my brother. I found it very interesting that JACK GORDON helped write "Hes MY BRother" because of the whole child molesting thing that took place. And I think this was Toy apologizing to mike for all of it. WOnder what he thought. As I stated before the entire album is sex, sex and more sex. It would be great for a porn movie, "oh oh oh dont you dare come" from sexual feeling, "ummmmmmm wont you come inside, inside my love." POST WHAT U THINK OF THE ALBUM
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Post by James on Jul 12, 2004 16:55:48 GMT 1
I love it too! the only toy album i actually have (xcept from mp3s) You & me, Playboy (my fave toy song - first i heard) & Hes my brother just blow me away (not literally of course).
ps. I think the album was released before the child molestation case but its interesteing how Jack G helped write Hes My Brother (using MJs fame anyone?)
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Post by latifaheaston on Jul 12, 2004 17:55:48 GMT 1
It's a masterpiece! Somewhere, Bad Girl, He's My Brother & Do The Salsa are brilliant!
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Post by thorsten on Jul 12, 2004 18:17:47 GMT 1
Oh boy, I think you really mixed up a few things here.
First of all, she whisperes Italian in "Sexual Feeling." It's not French.
Secondly, the cut "Sexual Feeling" was recorded separately from the whole Bad Girl album which was in fact produced in Germany in the summer of 1989. It was a really quick rpoduction. I think she only had 1 week to lay down the vocals for this album plus Jack really hurried her through the whole session which is why the producer had to overshadow many of LaToya's lead vocals with hundres of layers of backup vocalists. "Sexual Feeling" was recorded one year later in Italy.
Thirdly, "He's my Brother" certainly is no apology. It was recorded in 1989. The accusations of LaToya against Michael took place in 1993 (4 years later). "He's my brother" was probably Jack's idea to gain some money and attention
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Post by latifaheaston on Jul 12, 2004 18:40:18 GMT 1
Yay, a font of knowledge has arrived!!!
I was thinking Sexual Feeling was a later sounding track. Thanks for all that info! Was Jack Gordon really that mean? And are his claims of Bad Girl selling millions actually true?
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Post by James on Jul 12, 2004 19:41:25 GMT 1
I have no idea about her exact sales but I can make (attempt) good estimates. Bad Girl didn't chart nor did any of its singles but being the only Toy album readily available (amazon/hmv/poundland - where i got my copy from) it would have been a very steady slow seller especially with Jackson 5/MJ/Janet fan who were interested in the family. As well as it selling cheap in (i would estimate about) 30 different forms so fan might not realise that they're buying the same album due to all the name changes, i think i would have sold no more than 100,000k worldwide definately. I think possibly 50k. Its probably sold quite a bit on the net to Hardcore Jackson family fans (i'd say theres probably about 30k worldwide who try to buy every single thing but a lot more who aren't as hardcore, but still buy plenty of stuff. Also she seems (from what i've read on MJ sites) to be popular in the MJ community. I saw a message asking MJ fans what they planned to buy (stuff like the planned MJ boxset) and most said that they wanted Startin Over.
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Post by tommie on Jul 12, 2004 19:53:15 GMT 1
Jack Gordon claimed that it had sold 7 million in 30 days, I hardly think that it's true. But 'Bad Girl' wasn't allowed to chart, right?
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Post by Annie on Jul 12, 2004 20:03:15 GMT 1
First, in the song she says "mi piace" which means "I like it" in Italian. ("I like it" is really her signature line, she says it in almost all of her songs ) Bad Girl was the first LaToya album I could get since this one is the most available everywhere I guess. My fave songs are He's So Good To Me, Bad Girl, You And Me and Somewhere. I like the 80's sound of the album. What do you mean by "Bad Girl wasn't allowed to chart"?
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Post by James on Jul 12, 2004 21:11:12 GMT 1
I doubt he really meant that Bad Girl had sold that much or even believed it. It was just a way to get pubilicity and attention & its a pretty good way. Like if someone said Rebbie Jackson has sold that much it would grab your attention. I might of been able to chart but the only reason it might not have been able is because of the amount of different versions. Probably some nonsence by Jack gordon to explain why it had sold 7mn but didn't crack the charts.
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Post by latifaheaston on Jul 12, 2004 22:19:27 GMT 1
Hasn't it always been a budget title? They have their own chart and can't be in the main albums chart.
You couldn't have a £5.99 album up against a £12.99, it wouldn't be fair.
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Post by chrissydney on Jul 13, 2004 2:37:22 GMT 1
Such a great album! Definitely my fave album of hers, from what I've heard. 'You Keep My Restless Heart', 'Playboy', 'Do The Salsa' and 'Bad Girl' are eighties pop/dance classics, not to mention the heart-tugging emotion in the ballads. A little bit of Toy to please everyone's taste!
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Post by thorsten on Jul 13, 2004 8:23:47 GMT 1
As you already guessed: Bad Girl didn't sell very much copies. I know some of the songwriters who contributed 4 songs to the album and even with all the different versions, the album has not sold very good. Expectations were much higher (for all the songwriters and for the record company too).
The producer of the album, Tony Monn, once told me that Jack alwas interrupted while recording and stated: "This has to be enough! Now you have a version of her singing this line - go and do something with it!" That is why the producer described Jack as an asshole already at that time. He also said that Latoya was by far not as talented as her brothers and sisters. As a LaToya fan myself I have to say that he probably overetsimated the whole Jacksons family's talent. I don't believe Michael or Janet are THAT talented in a recording studio either when it comes to hitting the right notes. And as her vocals on Starting over prove, she just needs a little more time to lay down some good vocal lines. Or the 1988 "LaToya" album proves this as well. The producers really took the time to work with her and got good results. But when it comes to the vocals only I think "Bad Girl" is a lousy album - SPEAKING of the vocals only. Andyou can clearly hear that they invested MUCH MORE time for the vocals of Bad Girl and Pianao Man, which was the first single and the B-side. Then all the other tracks were recorded in a hurry.
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Post by Shellshock on Jul 13, 2004 8:37:23 GMT 1
I'd agree with that. Having god some Michael Jackson DVD's recently, I was shocked at how much he mimes. Even that famous Billie Jean performance. And Janet's voice is about as powerful as Emma Bunton's, although to be fair, it was better in the 80s on songs like Nasty. I heard that people who are abused when they're younger often talk like children when they're older.
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Post by James on Jul 13, 2004 10:39:29 GMT 1
That would explain why the family speak like that. I don't know if this is this but i found a few links which claimed that JJ was abused by Joe as a kid and although not as bad as MJ, J5, she was still hurt a bit because she was the only kid left and he took out his anger on her. ps I have no idea if this is true. It seems strange though how she always writes a long thank you to her mum in album sleeves but hardly anything to her dad. She also seems pretty strong and the type to speak out. Popbitch had bit about her going and beating up her dads mitress. Bit long but hope it makes sense.
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Post by James on Jul 13, 2004 10:40:57 GMT 1
Hasn't it always been a budget title? They have their own chart and can't be in the main albums chart. You couldn't have a £5.99 album up against a £12.99, it wouldn't be fair. Could be, i find this strange when MJ OTW can chart cause its selling at £2.99 but when Peter Andres GH can't chart because its £5.99.
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Post by James on Jul 13, 2004 10:43:22 GMT 1
Back to Bad Girl (another post..)
I love the Bad samples on Hes My Brother, just amazing & She gets SOOO emotional on You & Me. None of them beat Why don't you want my love any more (for me at least.)
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Post by Shellshock on Jul 13, 2004 11:26:50 GMT 1
Could be, i find this strange when MJ OTW can chart cause its selling at £2.99 but when Peter Andres GH can't chart because its £5.99. That's because Peter Andre's greatest hits was actually released as a budget album. Off The Wall is a full price album that just happens to be in the sale right now. Not exactly fair I know.
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Post by Annie on Jul 14, 2004 22:24:07 GMT 1
I heard that people who are abused when they're younger often talk like children when they're older. But does this affect their voice too? I thought this affects only their talking style...
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