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Post by suedehead on Dec 4, 2009 23:56:13 GMT 1
If England reach the semi-final (we can dream) they will play on the Tuesday (6 July) Only if we win our group. If we're runners-up, it'll be the day after. Does that mean I've misinterpreted the numbers of the QFs? I've assumed they are numbered in the order they are played. If I'm right then QF1 is Wnr Gp A/R-Up Gp B v Wnr Gp C/R-Up Gp D, QF QF3 is Wnr Gp A/R-Up Gp B v Wnr Gp D/R-Up Gp C, QF Tuesday's semi is Winner Q/F 1 v Winner Q/F 3
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Post by Panda on Dec 4, 2009 23:58:41 GMT 1
Only if we win our group. If we're runners-up, it'll be the day after. Does that mean I've misinterpreted the numbers of the QFs? I've assumed they are numbered in the order they are played. If I'm right then QF1 is Wnr Gp A/R-Up Gp B v Wnr Gp C/R-Up Gp D, QF QF3 is Wnr Gp A/R-Up Gp B v Wnr Gp D/R-Up Gp C, QF Tuesday's semi is Winner Q/F 1 v Winner Q/F 3 I think they're numbered 1, 3, 2, 4. The two qualifiers from each group go into separate halves of the draw so it's possible for any 2 teams to play each other in the final.
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Post by Chris on Dec 5, 2009 0:03:33 GMT 1
Isn't it complicated? The guy on Five Live didn't even seem to understand it when predicting his Q.Finalists!
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Post by suedehead on Dec 5, 2009 0:06:15 GMT 1
Does that mean I've misinterpreted the numbers of the QFs? I've assumed they are numbered in the order they are played. If I'm right then QF1 is Wnr Gp A/R-Up Gp B v Wnr Gp C/R-Up Gp D, QF QF3 is Wnr Gp A/R-Up Gp B v Wnr Gp D/R-Up Gp C, QF Tuesday's semi is Winner Q/F 1 v Winner Q/F 3 I think they're numbered 1, 3, 2, 4. The two qualifiers from each group go into separate halves of the draw so it's possible for any 2 teams to play each other in the final. I suppose it was a bit naive of me to assume that logic and FIFA might go together in any way
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Post by Panda on Dec 5, 2009 0:09:22 GMT 1
Knockout stages if results followed my world rankings:
Last 16: France v Nigeria England v Serbia Holland v Paraguay Brazil v Chile Greece v Mexico Germany v USA Italy v Cameroon Spain v Portugal
Quarter-finals: France v England Holland v Brazil Greece v Germany Italy v Spain
Semi-finals: England v Holland Germany v Spain
Final: Holland v Spain (Spain win)
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Post by Chris on Dec 5, 2009 0:11:11 GMT 1
Think you're way out there MrH. I can't imagine Brazil not reaching the semis. Spain are always built up to win it and one of the BBC pundits opted for them but they always then fail.
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Post by paulgilb on Dec 5, 2009 11:27:21 GMT 1
Slightly amusing listing of the teams in group C:
England Algeria Slovenia Yanks
We can but hope...
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Post by Mart!n on Dec 5, 2009 11:43:56 GMT 1
Funny enough every one seems to be predicting Spain to win, mind you they do seem stronger than the rest. England should qualify for the final 16, and than pray we don't get the French in the last 16. If we get Serbia than we should easily get in the final 8 after that they will be packing their bags.
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Post by Thor on Dec 5, 2009 12:14:38 GMT 1
Knockout stages if results followed my world rankings: Last 16: France v Nigeria England v Serbia Holland v Paraguay Brazil v Chile Greece v Mexico Germany v USA Italy v Cameroon Spain v Portugal Quarter-finals: France v England Holland v Brazil Greece v Germany Italy v Spain Semi-finals: England v Holland Germany v Spain Final: Holland v Spain (Spain win) I did my predictions and have the same results from the semi onwards
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Dec 5, 2009 12:42:54 GMT 1
so england, north korea, algeria and slovenia is a possible group? so close to what we actually got, i picked them 3 teams as the weakest in each pot and we got two of them.
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Post by Thor on Dec 5, 2009 13:07:23 GMT 1
Funny enough every one seems to be predicting Spain to win, mind you they do seem stronger than the rest. England should qualify for the final 16, and than pray we don't get the French in the last 16. If we get Serbia than we should easily get in the final 8 after that they will be packing their bags. Any slips ups and Spain could go out to Brazil in the last 16. It's a very intriguing draw.
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Post by Panda on Dec 5, 2009 15:52:50 GMT 1
Think you're way out there MrH. I can't imagine Brazil not reaching the semis. Spain are always built up to win it and one of the BBC pundits opted for them but they always then fail. I bow to your superior footballing knowledge and expertise. Anyway, it's not a prediction on my part, just how it would plan out based on my current rankings. Brazil are a bit lower than they possibly should be because they haven't played a major tournament in the last 2 years (I don't count the Confederations Cup as a major tournament) whereas the teams above them have.
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Post by Robin on Dec 5, 2009 15:53:13 GMT 1
Got to be pleased with the group, and I think Algeria have as good a chance as any of the others of joining England in the second round!
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Post by vastar iner on Dec 5, 2009 15:56:19 GMT 1
The Spanish for Algeria is an anagram of Algeria.
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Post by Panda on Dec 5, 2009 15:58:24 GMT 1
Got to be pleased with the group, and I think Algeria have as good a chance as any of the others of joining England in the second round! Algeria and Slovenia will both fancy their chances but it would still be a big surprise if the USA didn't go through. Plus the USA tend to play a lot better outside Europe. 1990 (Italy): out in first round (lost all 3 games) 1994 (USA): last 16 1998 (France): out in first round (lost all 3 games) 2002 (Japan/S. Korea): quarter-finals 2006 (Germany): out in first round (1 point from 3 games) 2009 Confed Cup (S. Africa): runners-up, beat Spain in semis
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Post by his blvdness on Dec 6, 2009 0:11:06 GMT 1
I'm going to stick my neck out here and say Spain will go out in the Second Round to the Ivory Coast. Brazil to win, having had a harder game against England in the semis than the final against probably Italy.
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Post by Chris on Dec 6, 2009 0:20:53 GMT 1
Think you're way out there MrH. I can't imagine Brazil not reaching the semis. Spain are always built up to win it and one of the BBC pundits opted for them but they always then fail. I bow to your superior footballing knowledge and expertise. . Thanks MrH.
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Post by Maximo Mark on Dec 6, 2009 13:00:27 GMT 1
I think Brazil are incredibly over-rated. I did a little prediction earlier and they come up against Chile in the second round. I fancy them to go out to be honest... If there's a group of death then it's Germany's group. Four very good teams in there, if Ghana aren't the best African team they're not far off at all, Australia are a good team and will want to make up for last time when they went out to an injustice and I think it's hard to put a case against Serbia being the strongest team from the European pot, they easily qualified ahead of the French....
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Post by Panda on Dec 6, 2009 20:24:05 GMT 1
If there's a group of death then it's Germany's group. Four very good teams in there, if Ghana aren't the best African team they're not far off at all The African Nations Cup next month should be very interesting. It could give a big indication on which African teams will perform well in South Africa. Unless Egypt win it again.
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Post by frag on Dec 6, 2009 22:07:44 GMT 1
Apparently there are just 4,125 tickets officially available to England fans for the USA match!
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