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Post by Pablo on Jun 19, 2010 0:29:06 GMT 1
I just wonder why Capello is reluctant to play Joe Cole at all and especially on the left, where we just seem to have no player who could create something there. I said to myself after 60 min, why doesn't he bring Heskey off for J.Cole and put Gerrard in that attacking position? Not only I was extremely shocked and disappointed on the pitch, some of Capello's subs were baffling. After seeing Slovenia play against USA, on that performance we probably deserve to go out after the next match.
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Post by rubcale on Jun 19, 2010 11:59:02 GMT 1
Does naybody really want to put themselves through the torture of watching on Wednesday.
Many talented individuals who just can't seem to produce their best as a team.
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Post by Tom on Jun 19, 2010 12:36:25 GMT 1
Some thoughts on the 3 games i've seen this week.
Italy-Paraguay. 1-1 a fair result, Italy were poor but they are traditionally slow starters. I wrote them off after the 1-1 v USA in 2006 so i'm not going to do the same again!
Germany-Serbia.Saw a bit of this yesterday. Germany never looked like scoring after missing their penalty.
England-Algeria Predicted 3-0 beforehand so awful result and an awful performance. Nothing to do with tactics or team selection for me, (though Cole's exclusion from the first 2 games is odd) the players just looked scared. Rooney (who has gone down in my estimation after his outburst to the camera) seemed disinterested in the 2nd half. Stuart Pearce called it a "mental issue" and James didn't sound happy with Capello in his interview on 5 Live. Alan Green actually suggested this morning on 5 Live Breakfast after that interview that Capello may have lost the dressing room.
Not confident at all of beating Slovenia but i'll go for a win simply because the prospect of not qualifying for the knockout stages is inconceivable.
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Post by Panda on Jun 19, 2010 14:25:10 GMT 1
Group E - Durban NETHERLANDS 1-0 JAPAN Goal: Sneijder 53 Referee: Hector Baldassi (Argentina) 1. Netherlands 2-6 (+3) 2. Japan 2-3 (0) ----------------------------- 3. Cameroon 1-0 (-1) 4. Denmark 1-0 (-2)
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Post by Panda on Jun 19, 2010 14:26:57 GMT 1
Holland will be the first team through to the last 16 if Cameroon fail to beat Denmark tonight.
Defeat for Cameroon would make them the first team to be eliminated.
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Post by Mart!n on Jun 19, 2010 14:45:22 GMT 1
Argentina are playing England in the world cup, and Messi says to the team, "listen you all seem tired, why don't you have a night off, have a drink and I'll play by myself." So they agree and Messi goes to play England by himself. At half time the Argentinian team check the score and they see ARG 1-0 ENG (Messi 37th min). They're all impressed and get back to what theyre doing. After the match finishes they check the score and see ARG 1-1 ENG (Lampard 85th min). They go to their dressing room and see Messi with his head in his hands. They tell him, "Come on, cheer up you got a draw all by yourself, that's great."Messi replies, "No you don't understand, I got sent off in the 60th minute."
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Post by vastar iner on Jun 19, 2010 15:02:30 GMT 1
Pfft. Don't be stupid, that would never happen.
Lampard would put it over the bar.
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Post by Panda on Jun 19, 2010 15:15:06 GMT 1
Pfft. Don't be stupid, that would never happen. Lampard would put it over the bar. Pfft. Don't be stupid, that would never happen. Lampard would pass it back to Terry.
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Post by Chris on Jun 19, 2010 16:19:25 GMT 1
Argentina are playing England in the world cup, and Messi says to the team, "listen you all seem tired, why don't you have a night off, have a drink and I'll play by myself." So they agree and Messi goes to play England by himself. At half time the Argentinian team check the score and they see ARG 1-0 ENG (Messi 37th min). They're all impressed and get back to what theyre doing. After the match finishes they check the score and see ARG 1-1 ENG (Lampard 85th min). They go to their dressing room and see Messi with his head in his hands. They tell him, "Come on, cheer up you got a draw all by yourself, that's great."Messi replies, "No you don't understand, I got sent off in the 60th minute."
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Post by Panda on Jun 19, 2010 16:57:31 GMT 1
Group D - Rustenburg GHANA 1-1 AUSTRALIA Goals: Gyan (pen) 25 Holman 11 Red card: Kewell 24 Referee: Roberto Rosetti (Italy) 1. Ghana 2-4 (+1) 2. Germany 2-3 (+3) --------------------------- 3. Serbia 2-3 (0) 4. Australia 2-1 (-4)
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Post by Paddy on Jun 19, 2010 17:04:15 GMT 1
Very poor ref from Italy.
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Post by Maximo Mark on Jun 19, 2010 17:08:31 GMT 1
He did alright, there have been worse. Didn't really have a choice with the penalty. His arm was outstreched (albeit not greatly) and the ball hit it. Can't be anything other than a penalty and straight red.
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Post by Robin on Jun 19, 2010 17:29:50 GMT 1
I agree, unlucky for Kewell but that's the rules!
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Post by paulgilb on Jun 19, 2010 17:34:45 GMT 1
Interesting that all 4 games so far in Group D have seen a red card.
Permutations for Group D:
Ghana only need to avoid defeat to Germany to guarantee a place in the last 16. Even if they lose, they might still go through if Serbia do not beat Australia. If Ghana avoid defeat, they will top the group unless Ghana draw and Serbia win.
Germany will top the group if they beat Ghana (unless Serbia beat Australia by at least 3 goals more). Germany will also go through if they draw and Serbia do not win and Australia do not win by 8+ goals. If Germany lose, they are out.
Serbia will go through if they win (and may top the group if Ghana fail to win) and will be out if they lose. A draw will be sufficient if Ghana win, or if Ghana loses by 2 goals or more, or if Ghana loses by 1 goal and Serbia scores 2 more goals than Ghana.
Australia need to beat Serbia to stand any chance of progressing. If Ghana and Germany draw, then Australia will need to win by 8+ goals. If Germany beat Ghana, then Australia will also need the aggregate goal difference in their win and Ghana loss to be 5 goals or more.
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Post by o on Jun 19, 2010 17:50:25 GMT 1
Anyone else think Rooney ought to take back what he said at the end of the game? I never boo, but if people have paid (a lot of) money, and see a poor performance, they have a right to let you know it wasn't good enough! What it highlights for me, is how far the players have become separated from reality, and how they believe they are above criticism. You get paid 100k a week for your club, plus whatever your match fee is for each World Cup game, plus the extra 1k for each player playing, then your average Joe Public is going to be a little miffed. I like Rooney, think his effort and play at Man U is excellent, but he has been woeful for England, and if he wants the fans to hate him, keep saying stupid things like that!
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Post by Chris on Jun 19, 2010 17:57:12 GMT 1
He's apologised now.
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Post by rubcale on Jun 19, 2010 18:27:11 GMT 1
As Diana Ross would say "Sorry Doesn't Always Make It Right".
Surely fans have the right to make their feelings known at the end of a game?
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Post by Chris on Jun 19, 2010 18:33:11 GMT 1
Strangely England are still overwhelming favourites to beat Slovenia on Wednesday. You can get 7/1. That's a great price. Fancy putting a tenner on.
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Post by Robin on Jun 19, 2010 18:35:25 GMT 1
Not good enough, drop him!
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Post by Panda on Jun 19, 2010 18:56:36 GMT 1
Strangely England are still overwhelming favourites to beat Slovenia on Wednesday. You can get 7/1. That's a great price. Fancy putting a tenner on. Good price for Slovenia but they only need a draw to go through so that might be the bet to go for. That said, I haven't had much success in this World Cup...
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