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Post by ligerdog7 on Jul 3, 2010 20:57:56 GMT 1
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Post by ligerdog7 on Jul 3, 2010 20:59:30 GMT 1
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Post by suedehead on Jul 3, 2010 21:10:57 GMT 1
1-0 Spain at last Even though they did do their best to miss
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Post by Chris on Jul 3, 2010 21:32:19 GMT 1
At least England could say "we were knocked out by the eventual winners"
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Post by Mart!n on Jul 3, 2010 21:37:13 GMT 1
Better second half, and sets up a brilliant semi with Germany now, I still fancy Spain beating Germany.
Funny pattern in the last eight 3 South American teams failing to qualify further in the comp apart from Uruguay.
If Germany go through to the final and win, it be the first time as Germany, last time they won the World Cup in 1990 as West Germany.
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Post by Robin on Jul 3, 2010 21:43:09 GMT 1
Spain look poor, I really don't think they have what it takes to win the World Cup. Good luck to Germany, they are a much better team.
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Post by suedehead on Jul 3, 2010 21:55:13 GMT 1
If Germany and Spain play like they did today, Germany could get four again. If Spain play anywhere near their best however, it could be very interesting.
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Post by Maximo Mark on Jul 3, 2010 21:55:35 GMT 1
Watching the highlights from Argentina vs Germany again, I really do think that this could well be the start of one of history's great teams. They're all so young and yet they're so good despite that youth. Boateng, Muller and Ozil are all eligible to play for U21s. Khedira is only 23. Even their experience players are still young. Podolski, Schweinsteiger and Lahm have 226 international appearences between them. They're still only 25, 25 and 26, incredible.
Only Klose and Friedrich won't be at the next World Cup, and they have the quality to replace them. I like Badstuber of Bayern Munich, he'll develop into a better left back and Boateng can go in the centre. I like Marin and Kroos too.
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Post by o on Jul 3, 2010 22:06:09 GMT 1
If Germany dont reach the final, it will be the first time ever that a world cup final has not had one of Germany, Italy, Brazil or Argentina in it! I should have posted that in the stats thread Glad Spain got through, Paraguay just send me to sleep!
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Post by Maximo Mark on Jul 3, 2010 22:07:19 GMT 1
This match is Un-Bel-iev-able Penalty drama central..... In other World Cup news: Uruguay's Luis Suarez has NOT been given an extra one-match ban by Fifa for his red card against Ghana on Friday. So if they beat the Netherlands and reach the final, Suarez will be eligible. Good decision. Those are the rules and I don't think you can bend them for one incident. A red card for deliberate handball is a one match ban, and should stay that way. Besides, if Gyan had scored the penalty no one would be having the debate anyway.
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Post by suedehead on Jul 3, 2010 22:17:22 GMT 1
This match is Un-Bel-iev-able Penalty drama central..... In other World Cup news: Uruguay's Luis Suarez has NOT been given an extra one-match ban by Fifa for his red card against Ghana on Friday. So if they beat the Netherlands and reach the final, Suarez will be eligible. Good decision. Those are the rules and I don't think you can bend them for one incident. A red card for deliberate handball is a one match ban, and should stay that way. Besides, if Gyan had scored the penalty no one would be having the debate anyway. It's very tempting to say that he should get a longer ban. However, you're right to say that there would have been no debate if the penalty had been scored. For that reason, FIFA are right (not something I say very often ) to stick with a one game ban.
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Post by ligerdog7 on Jul 3, 2010 23:57:42 GMT 1
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Post by Oasis on Jul 4, 2010 7:54:21 GMT 1
Germany have to be favorites after that 4-0 thrashing over Argentina, I definitely did not see that on the horizon!
Netherlands vs Germany Final looks like the most likely... Though you never know Uruguay and Spain are capable of doing it too!
However Spain have not impressed me at all this world cup, they will need to step it up big time if they want to beat germany!!
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Post by Tom on Jul 4, 2010 11:08:31 GMT 1
Saw the Uruguay-Ghana game in the pub while out for my birthday (well the 2nd half of extra-time anyway). Everyone there wanted Ghana to win, probably the cruellest end to a game I can remember. My mate actually said he thinks it should be a yellow card and goal given for handball on the line, like a penalty try in rugby that the BBC commentary referred to, and in circumstances like that he's got a good point. Suarez's handball effectively won them the game and his red card at that stage of the match was meaningless. Fantastic game between Ghana and Uruguay, spoiled at the end by Ghana being cheated out of a place in the semi-finals... I think it was purely instinctive, an instict that would've been in most footballers to do exactly the same thing if the situation arose. World Cup Quarter Final, the biggest game in your country's recent history, split second reaction, certain defeat or near certain defeat. Agree, i was thinking if it had been Rooney in a QF at that stage of the game how would I have felt. Difficult to say but I would have understood why he did it at least. Suarez calling it his "Hand of God" moment doesn't really help though..
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Post by Tom on Jul 4, 2010 11:54:20 GMT 1
Germany have to be favorites after that 4-0 thrashing over Argentina, I definitely did not see that on the horizon! Netherlands vs Germany Final looks like the most likely... Though you never know Uruguay and Spain are capable of doing it too! However Spain have not impressed me at all this world cup, they will need to step it up big time if they want to beat germany!! Pretty much agree with all that, although I did think Germany would score one or 2 against Argentina and there could be a goal fest. Hope its an all European final as a final with Uruguay in it just wouldn't have the same appeal for me. Spain-Germany promises to be a cracking game, just a shame its not the semi being played on my birthday.
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Post by Panda on Jul 4, 2010 15:05:39 GMT 1
If Germany and Spain play like they did today, Germany could get four again. If Spain play anywhere near their best however, it could be very interesting. The big difference is Spain can defend. Germany won't get anywhere the same amount of time and space they did against England and Argentina. Spain haven't been particularly impressive but they're still finding a way to win and they've been playing every game with 10 men as Torres has been nothing more than a passenger. Both goals they've scored in the knockout stages have come after he's been given the hook.
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Post by Panda on Jul 4, 2010 15:09:28 GMT 1
Quarter-finals - Johannesburg (Ellis Park) PARAGUAY 0-1 SPAIN Goal: Villa 83 Referee: Carlos Batres (Guatemala)
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Post by Panda on Jul 4, 2010 15:10:52 GMT 1
Second round | Quarter-finals | Semi-finals | FINAL | Uruguay 2 | | | | South Korea 1 | Uruguay 1(4) | | | | | | | USA 1 | Ghana 1(2) | | | Ghana 2 | | Uruguay | | | | | | Holland 2 | | Holland | | Slovakia 1 | Holland 2 | | | | | | | Brazil 3 | Brazil 1 | | | Chile 0 | | | | | | | | Argentina 3 | | | | Mexico 1 | Argentina 0 | | | | | | | Germany 4 | Germany 4 | | | England 1 | | Germany | | | | | | Paraguay 0(5) | | Spain | | Japan 0(3) | Paraguay 0 | | | | | | | Spain 1 | Spain 1 | | | Portugal 0 | | | |
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Post by Panda on Jul 4, 2010 15:15:40 GMT 1
Odds to win the World Cup:
2/1 Spain 9/4 Germany 9/4 Holland 12/1 Uruguay
Some bookies have Spain and Germany as joint-favourites.
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Post by suedehead on Jul 4, 2010 15:44:20 GMT 1
Spain seem the most likely of the four to make the final so it's not surprising that they are the favourites.
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