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Post by Pablo on Jun 17, 2010 22:11:09 GMT 1
France looked absolutely terrible, every pass of the ball seemed very laboured and there's just no passion at all from any of the players.
I would say South Africa has the best chance of challenging the top 2 rather than France do.
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Post by paulgilb on Jun 17, 2010 22:20:03 GMT 1
Possible permutations for Group A:
Uruguay and Mexico both go through if either game is drawn.
For France to advance, in addition to winning their game and the other game not being a draw, the sum of goal differential in their game vs South Africa and Uruguay vs Mexico must be 5 or more.
For South Africa to advance, in addition to winning their game and the other game not being a draw, the sum of goal differential in their game vs South Africa and Uruguay vs Mexico must be 6 or more.
Possible permutations for Group B:
Argentina can only be eliminated if they lose to Greece by at least 3 goals and South Korea beat Nigeria. Even then, they can still go through if the goal difference is favourable. If Greece do not beat Argentina by at least 3 goals, then Argentina will top the group.
South Korea need to avoid defeat to stand any chance. A draw will be enough if Argentina beat Greece or Greece and Argentina draw with Greece scoring at most 1 goal more than South Korea. Even a victory may not be enough if Greece beat Argentina.
Greece will go through if they beat Argentina and Nigeria avoid defeat. It will come down to goal difference if Nigeria do lose. A draw will be enough for Greece if Nigeria win or Nigeria draw and score at least 2 goals fewer than Greece.
Nigeria need to win and hope Argentina also win.
(Thanks to Wikipedia!)
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Post by ligerdog7 on Jun 17, 2010 22:26:32 GMT 1
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Post by Panda on Jun 17, 2010 22:50:14 GMT 1
Slovenia will become the first team through to the last 16 if they beat the USA and Algeria don't beat England.
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Post by ligerdog7 on Jun 17, 2010 22:58:02 GMT 1
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Post by Oasis on Jun 18, 2010 8:16:09 GMT 1
come on england!!!
I hope we don't get found out today !!! It really is a must win and if england can't beat algeria then we can forget about wining the damn thing!
i hear that Green is likely to start
barry as the holding midfield and gerrard pushed to the left
upfont heskey and rooney ( are the projected 2 men to lead the line) though some reports have said possibly defoe?
anyway come on England I wanna shut up these american lads that I have had to put up with after our draw!
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Post by Oasis on Jun 18, 2010 8:23:42 GMT 1
Its all over for French I think. Argentina seems to be the favourite now after I've seen most of the first round matches, they seem to be on top form. Argentina look good but they haven't beaten anyone yet. South Korea gave them some problems at the back. They are definitely beatable. I agree with that. Have Argentina really been tested yet ? Nigeria were abysmal first game and the argies scrapped a 1-0 win. They definitely stepped up there game against south Korea, but still they look questionable at the back.
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Post by o on Jun 18, 2010 9:58:55 GMT 1
It's good that the games have finally get interesting and more exciting, long may it continue! I'm very nervous about England tonight! If he drops Heskey and brings in Defoe, who will hold the ball up like Heskey does? Yes he should have scored, but he made the goal!
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Post by rubcale on Jun 18, 2010 12:21:54 GMT 1
It's hard to judge from opening games.
England should win tonight to keep the door open but in all honesty I wouldn't put any money on it.
It could be a very tense and nerve wracking evening.
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Post by Panda on Jun 18, 2010 16:19:34 GMT 1
Group D - Port Elizabeth GERMANY 0-1 SERBIA Goal: Jovanovic 38 Red card: Klose 37 Referee: Alberto Undiano (Spain) 1. Germany 2-3 (+3) 2. Ghana 1-3 (+1) -------------------------------- 3. Serbia 2-3 (0) 4. Australia 1-0 (-4)
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Post by Earl Purple on Jun 18, 2010 16:47:45 GMT 1
If Slovenia win they are through regardless as they will have 6 points and it is impossible for 2 other teams to also reach that. They were 2-0 up but it's now 2-2 and really should have been 2-3.
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Post by Panda on Jun 18, 2010 16:51:42 GMT 1
Group C - Johannesburg (Ellis Park) SLOVENIA 2-2 UNITED STATES Goals: Birsa 13; Ljubijankic 42 Donovan 48; Bradley 82 Referee: Koman Coulibaly (Mali) 1. Slovenia 2-4 (+1) 2. USA 2-2 (0) -------------------------- 3. England 1-1 (0) 4. Algeria 1-0 (-1)
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Post by Panda on Jun 18, 2010 16:58:34 GMT 1
So still no-one definitely through to the last 16. Algeria will still be the first team eliminated if they lose to England tonight.
Either Holland or Japan could be the first team through to Round 2 tomorrow, depending on the result of the Cameroon-Denmark game.
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Post by Chris on Jun 18, 2010 17:22:40 GMT 1
Sky say their "sources" say that Green's dropped and James is in goal tonight.
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Post by Panda on Jun 18, 2010 17:24:49 GMT 1
Sky say their "sources" say that Green's dropped and James is in goal tonight. BBC have been saying that for hours. (Surprisingly quick for BBC as they're usually the last to report anything.)
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Post by Panda on Jun 18, 2010 17:25:57 GMT 1
Team according to Sky:
James Johnson A Cole Terry Carragher Lennon Lampard Barry Gerrard Heskey Rooney
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Post by vastar iner on Jun 18, 2010 17:33:46 GMT 1
Last night the bookies stopped taking bets on James being in goal.
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Post by Elmer on Jun 18, 2010 17:51:35 GMT 1
Last night the bookies stopped taking bets on James being in goal. I think it's shocking to drop Green. You may as well send him home now to noose himself. He'll play no further part in this world cup now and Capello has shattered any shred of confidence that Green may have had. They always say that if you fall from a horse you need to get straight back on but he won't have the chance to do that.
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Post by Crazy Don on Jun 18, 2010 18:01:45 GMT 1
I just got back to see the ending of the USA-Slovenia game. Well, if England beats Algeria today and Slovenia next week, and if the USA defeats Algeria next week, the US will advance to the next round. Go England!
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Post by Panda on Jun 18, 2010 18:31:35 GMT 1
I just got back to see the ending of the USA-Slovenia game. Well, if England beats Algeria today and Slovenia next week, and if the USA defeats Algeria next week, the US will advance to the next round. Go England! The USA don't actually need England to win either game. As long as the USA beat Algeria by at least 2 goals, they will go through regardless of other results. The situation will become clearer after tonight's game.
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