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Post by ThinWhitePuke on Dec 2, 2010 17:22:16 GMT 1
So you can surely therefore see out failure is at least partly due to the British media, as being corrupt is exactly what they've accused them of being! That is speculation though, maybe it cost us a small number of votes but not enough to have us 4th out of 4 surely, other aspects of our bid must have not been good enough |
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Post by Paddy on Dec 2, 2010 17:23:15 GMT 1
So you can surely therefore see out failure is at least partly due to the British media, as being corrupt is exactly what they've accused them of being! That is speculation though, maybe it cost us a small number of votes but not enough to have us 4th out of 4 surely, other aspects of our bid must have not been good enough We didn't secretly pay enough money? |
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Post by Maximo Mark on Dec 2, 2010 17:24:01 GMT 1
A small number of votes would've been enough. Two is a small number, it could've made us go 6-4 putting someone else through in stead...
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Post by ThinWhitePuke on Dec 2, 2010 17:27:36 GMT 1
That is speculation though, maybe it cost us a small number of votes but not enough to have us 4th out of 4 surely, other aspects of our bid must have not been good enough We didn't secretly pay enough money? Probably Abramovich and the Emir of Qatar can easily afford massive bribes |
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Post by Panda on Dec 2, 2010 17:28:31 GMT 1
China apparently wanted to bid for 2026 but that's out of the window now.
It's thought that Argentina and Uruguay may look at a joint bid but possibly in 2030 to coincide with the 100th anniversary of the first World Cup.
That may well open the door for the 2026 World Cup being in Europe.
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Post by Paddy on Dec 2, 2010 17:28:44 GMT 1
Russia apparently won in round 2 by majority of 12 votes from 22 voters.
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Post by Panda on Dec 2, 2010 17:43:35 GMT 1
So you can surely therefore see out failure is at least partly due to the British media, as being corrupt is exactly what they've accused them of being! That is speculation though, maybe it cost us a small number of votes but not enough to have us 4th out of 4 surely, other aspects of our bid must have not been good enough RUSSIA - major racism and infrastructure problems SPAIN - major racism problems HOLLAND - major hooliganism problems Our bid was not the reason we went out in the first round. |
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Post by Mart!n on Dec 2, 2010 17:49:23 GMT 1
At this rate England won't host the game till 2066 100 years since they hosted and won the World Cup  |
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Post by ThinWhitePuke on Dec 2, 2010 17:53:20 GMT 1
That is speculation though, maybe it cost us a small number of votes but not enough to have us 4th out of 4 surely, other aspects of our bid must have not been good enough RUSSIA - major racism and infrastructure problems SPAIN - major racism problems HOLLAND - major hooliganism problems Our bid was not the reason we went out in the first round. Russia's infrastructure is fine A metro system that takes people all over Moscow and its suburbs including the airport and olympic village, an established football league with stadiums as good as ours, a powerful economy, the infrastructure thing might have been the case under Brehznev and Andropov but Moscow is a thriving modern city as is St Petersburg, Nizhny Novograd is find for hosting football matches too. Racism out there is no worse than what we have, the rise of the ultra far right in this country like BNP/EDL, "pakis out" that seems to fill twitter and facebook, we have a big problem with racism here. |
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Post by Mart!n on Dec 2, 2010 17:57:26 GMT 1
That may well open the door for the 2026 World Cup being in Europe. 2026 would be an European window, if they follow the pattern, so I can't see why England can't apply for 2026, that's what got me. |
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Post by Panda on Dec 2, 2010 17:59:14 GMT 1
England got 2 votes in first round of vote.
Surprisingly, Australia only got one vote in the first round of the 2022 vote.
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Post by Panda on Dec 2, 2010 18:06:12 GMT 1
an established football league with stadiums as good as ours Most of the venues for 2018 haven't been built, which under your criteria makes it totally unsuitable. |
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Post by Panda on Dec 2, 2010 18:13:06 GMT 1
Result of 2018 vote:
1st round
Russia 9
Spain/Portugal 7
Belgium/Holland 4
England 2
2nd round
Russia 13
Spain/Portugal 7
Belgium/Holland 2
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Post by Maximo Mark on Dec 2, 2010 18:25:30 GMT 1
RUSSIA - major racism and infrastructure problems SPAIN - major racism problems HOLLAND - major hooliganism problems Our bid was not the reason we went out in the first round. Russia's infrastructure is fine A metro system that takes people all over Moscow and its suburbs including the airport and olympic village, an established football league with stadiums as good as ours, a powerful economy, the infrastructure thing might have been the case under Brehznev and Andropov but Moscow is a thriving modern city as is St Petersburg, Nizhny Novograd is find for hosting football matches too. Racism out there is no worse than what we have, the rise of the ultra far right in this country like BNP/EDL, "pakis out" that seems to fill twitter and facebook, we have a big problem with racism here. Are you joking? Lomokotiv Moscow fans made a banner saying "Thank you West Brom" with a picture of Peter Odemwingie and a load of bananas on it. When was the last time you ever saw anything like that in football terms in England? I've never seen it in my lifetime. |
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Post by suedehead on Dec 2, 2010 18:36:47 GMT 1
Not if they go ahead and relax their laws. I'm sure they'll weigh up their beliefs against the losses in tourism/potential upset at those intent on still drinking... I've already answered that. They had to agree to a relaxation of the alcohol laws in order to be considered. |
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Post by suedehead on Dec 2, 2010 18:39:16 GMT 1
I don't think there is anything to stop European countries from going for 2026. However, they may decide that it is unlikely to go to Europe and that a bid could damage their chances of getting 2030. I was too young to notice the 1966 WC - even though my dad went to the final - and it looks like I will have retired before it is held here again.
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Post by raliverpool on Dec 2, 2010 18:40:14 GMT 1
Russia's infrastructure is fine A metro system that takes people all over Moscow and its suburbs including the airport and olympic village, an established football league with stadiums as good as ours, a powerful economy, the infrastructure thing might have been the case under Brehznev and Andropov but Moscow is a thriving modern city as is St Petersburg, Nizhny Novograd is find for hosting football matches too. Racism out there is no worse than what we have, the rise of the ultra far right in this country like BNP/EDL, "pakis out" that seems to fill twitter and facebook, we have a big problem with racism here. Are you joking? Lomokotiv Moscow fans made a banner saying "Thank you West Brom" with a picture of Peter Odemwingie and a load of bananas on it. When was the last time you ever saw anything like that in football terms in England? I've never seen it in my lifetime. Indeed TWP talking a load of nonsense (again).  There would be prosecutions possibly resulting in jail if that was brought into an English Football ground. Still Radio 5 Live reports that a number of the FIFA (Forget It For Always) voters received a large brown envelope under their hotel doors ..... containing clippings of all the UK media's unfavourable comments about FIFA. Maybe tomorrow's The Sun's headline should be "It's The Papers & The BBC Wot lost it!"; because our presentation was brilliant today. |
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Post by ThinWhitePuke on Dec 2, 2010 18:51:03 GMT 1
Are you joking? Lomokotiv Moscow fans made a banner saying "Thank you West Brom" with a picture of Peter Odemwingie and a load of bananas on it. When was the last time you ever saw anything like that in football terms in England? I've never seen it in my lifetime. Indeed TWP talking a load of nonsense (again). There would be prosecutions possibly resulting in jail if that was brought into an English Football ground. Still Radio 5 Live reports that a number of the FIFA (Forget It For Always) voters received a large brown envelope under their hotel doors ..... containing clippings of all the UK media's unfavourable comments about FIFA. Maybe tomorrow's The Sun's headline should be "It's The Papers & The BBC Wot lost it!"; because our presentation was brilliant today. Our racism is just in a different place, if you have Facebook you should browse some of the anti muslim groups especially the one about the muslims on remembrance day which included thousands of comments aimed at all muslims which would have made Hitler shocked were he alive today. Islamophobia and the rise of the EDL/BNP in this country is far worse than a few yobs chanting racist abuse in Russia |
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Post by rubcale on Dec 2, 2010 19:07:38 GMT 1
England didn't just lose out - they were humiliated and I place the blame right at the door of The Times and the BBC.
No-one is denying their right to expose the wrong-doing but couldn't they just have waited another couple of weeks?
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Post by raliverpool on Dec 2, 2010 19:16:03 GMT 1
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