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Post by rubcale on Aug 28, 2011 12:54:01 GMT 1
This is turning into a bit of a disaster for the British team especially the women.
After CO yesterday Lisa Dobriskey finished LAST in her 1r heat of 15oom and pole vaulter Holly Bleasdale who was considered to have an outside chance of a medal didn't make the final.
Not really surprising that the other two 400m Brit girls didn't make the final.
There must surely be some concern a year out from the Olympics although not having to acclimatise will surely be a big advantage.
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Post by Panda on Aug 28, 2011 12:58:35 GMT 1
I guarantee this false start rule won't be in place next year. Having world champions not even start their races due to being DQ'd isn't what the sport needs.
But how great is Kim Collins. A bronze medal at 35 for Mr. Consistancy.
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Post by Panda on Aug 28, 2011 13:07:37 GMT 1
This is turning into a bit of a disaster for the British team especially the women. After CO yesterday Lisa Dobriskey finished LAST in her 1r heat of 15oom and pole vaulter Holly Bleasdale who was considered to have an outside chance of a medal didn't make the final. Not really surprising that the other two 400m Brit girls didn't make the final. There must surely be some concern a year out from the Olympics although not having to acclimatise will surely be a big advantage. Disaster? I don't think so, rub. None of our realistic medal hopes have missed out so far. Dobriskey hasn't run well all year and was never going to match Berlin. Holly Bleasdale is only 19 and seemed a bit over-awed by the occasion. She'll learn from this but again, a medal was unlikely. Andy Turner looked good in the hurdles this morning, finishing 2nd behind Liu Xiang and 5th fastest overall.
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Post by vastar iner on Aug 28, 2011 14:42:04 GMT 1
Anyone know why the BBC, instead of showing Mo Farah in the 10,000m, was showing Celebrity Baking or some other load of bolsheviks?
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Post by Panda on Aug 28, 2011 14:54:44 GMT 1
Anyone know why the BBC, instead of showing Mo Farah in the 10,000m, was showing Celebrity Baking or some other load of bolsheviks? Because the championships are on Channel 4?
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Post by raliverpool on Aug 28, 2011 15:04:29 GMT 1
Anyone know why the BBC, instead of showing Mo Farah in the 10,000m, was showing Celebrity Baking or some other load of bolsheviks? Simples. CONDEM government cuts causing the BBC budget to be reduced by 16% in real terms, resulting in the BBC taking some emergency measures to cope with the reduced budget. This included selling off the rights that they had already won at tender to show the US Masters at Golf (to Sky); exclusive rights to F1 from 2012-2016 (to Sky) & the Athletics World Championships in 2011 & 2013 to Channel 4. So blame Rupert Murdoch's puppet government and British Secretary of State for Culture, Olympics, Media and Sport Jeremy "Rhyming-slang" Hunt for inflicting the hosting "skills" of Ortis Deley and ad breaks on us all.
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Post by vastar iner on Aug 28, 2011 16:00:37 GMT 1
Bolsheviks to that. The BBC didn't need to spend £25m on American Fix Factor or whatever it has bought recently; it didn't need to set up BBC3; it didn't need to pay Jonathan Ross anything; it didn't need to provide a gilt-edged pension to Mark Thompson; it doesn't need to send reporters to places where nothing is happening to report that nothing is happening; it doesn't need a massive building in the most expensive real estate in Britain. There are loads of ways the BBC could cut costs without cutting programming, but that would involve cuts to middle management and the allegedly creative types, and they've fiddled the system to protect themselves.
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Post by raliverpool on Aug 28, 2011 16:46:45 GMT 1
Bolsheviks to that. The BBC didn't need to spend £25m on American Fix Factor or whatever it has bought recently; it didn't need to set up BBC3; it didn't need to pay Jonathan Ross anything; it didn't need to provide a gilt-edged pension to Mark Thompson; it doesn't need to send reporters to places where nothing is happening to report that nothing is happening; it doesn't need a massive building in the most expensive real estate in Britain. There are loads of ways the BBC could cut costs without cutting programming, but that would involve cuts to middle management and the allegedly creative types, and they've fiddled the system to protect themselves. The only person talking bolsheiviks is yourself. But I guess you are a believer of James Murdoch's "the only reliable, durable and perpetual guarantor of independence is profit". Just look at Fox TV in America for proof of that .... not. Or Sky bringing in £7.1 billion in revenue yet spending just £1.9bn on programming; whilst making a profit of £1.2bn. During the same period the BBC brought in £5.2bn in revenue and spent £3.3bn on programming, which let's not forget does not include the 4th biggest viewed website (in terms of traffic) on the World Wide Web. The blatant way that News Corporation has coerced Mr Cameron, Mr Osborne & Mr Hunt to serve up the stifling of OFCOM & scaling back of the BBC in return for the support of NI's titles is a national disgrace of self interest over public interest. Mr Murdoch just wants to be the dominant player, he wants to put everything behind a paywall & while a large state funded broadcaster does it for free then Mr Murdoch attempts to get news / sport / entertainment programmes / information behind a paywall are impeded. Still I'll stick to the maxim of Mark Thompson "Unfettered, and unchecked, commercialism usually ends in corruption", because the BBC is not run for profit, and therefore with its TV, radio stations & website offer excellent value for money. Quite frankly it's worth it for BBC4; Radio 5Live & Radio 6Music alone.
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Post by vastar iner on Aug 28, 2011 17:03:32 GMT 1
I can't see how Murdoch has anything to do with the BBC spending money on a programme it does not need and which does not fulfil its remit in an idiotic attempt to seize ratings. Murdoch did not force the BBC to do that; Murdoch did not force the BBC to pay Mark Thompson six times as much as the Prime Minister; Murdoch did not force the BBC to waste £18m on Jonathan Ross. Immediately there you have £30m p.a. saved. Just with scrapping those three moves. £30m that could be spent on television for the benefit of the public.
Sky has to make a living, it has to buy cheap and sell high. The BBC need not do that. Indeed it could be considered poor form that the BBC has £2bn annually that it DOESN'T spend on programming, as that's it's raison d'etre. It doesn't need to advertise or seek commercial partners. It doesn't need to buffer for a rainy day. It doesn't lose income because it hacks phones. It is a business model that is unrelated to Sky's and it should be treated as being in a different industry. If the BBC tries to compete with Murdoch that's not only it's fault - it's patently not what we are paying it to do.
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Post by Panda on Aug 28, 2011 17:49:51 GMT 1
I preferred my answer.
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Post by vastar iner on Aug 28, 2011 18:09:36 GMT 1
They have adverts though. (BTW, is it just my opinion, or has Channel 4 REALLY gone downhill in recent years?)
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Post by Panda on Aug 28, 2011 19:11:12 GMT 1
I have to say Rick Edwards on the highlights show is much better than Ortis. I don't understand why they didn't give him the main presenter's job.
One really annoying thing about the highlights is how they don't show the start lists then just show the end of the race, so the race is over by the time we've worked out who we're looking at...
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Post by raliverpool on Aug 28, 2011 19:33:06 GMT 1
Ortis Deley's greatest hits
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Post by rubcale on Aug 29, 2011 12:14:29 GMT 1
Terrible run in the semis of 400m from Martyn Rooney.
Poor hurdles from Jessica Ennis has put the heptathlon on a knife edge.
She has recovered some ground by throwing a life-time best in the shot put but after 3 events is only 12 points ahead of the field - the first day is her best.
Nervous times ahead.
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Post by vastar iner on Aug 29, 2011 15:47:54 GMT 1
Botswana win a gold! \o/
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Post by rubcale on Aug 29, 2011 18:26:44 GMT 1
Jess leads by 151 points after a good 200m into a headwind so if she throws a reasonable javelin could doit.
Greta performance from Andy Turner (finished 4th) to take bronze in 110m hurdles after the Cuban winner was disqualified.
Great for William Sharman to make the final - on paper he didn't look to have the time. All you can ask is that an athlete gives their best which he did.
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Post by rubcale on Aug 30, 2011 12:01:17 GMT 1
Disaster for Jess Ennis - after equalling her PB in the Long Jump she had a terrible Javelin not reaching 40m (PB 46m+).
This discipline has often been her Achilles Heel and it means she will have to settle for Silver - unless she was to beat the Russian by 9sec in the 800m, which is simply not going to happen.
If we did have one Banker for a Gold then was it, now gone.
Perry Shakes-Drayton missed out on final by a hundredth of a second - I though t she might have been an outside medal contender but looking at the others I douby she could have won one in the final.
Dai Green had a brilliant run in the 44m hurdles to make the final and even stuttered at the last hurdle. I only hope he hasn't peaked too soon but he is definitely looking like a cert for the Podium.
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Post by Panda on Aug 30, 2011 22:16:56 GMT 1
A shame for Jess but she will come back stronger next year. She gave it everything and was let down by one bad event, plus a couple where she didn't do quite as well as she could.
But we're going OK. 3 medals halfway through the championships and at least 5 or 6 more chances to come and Dai Greene really is looking like a contender for gold now.
Charles van Commenee's pre-Championships target was 7 medals with 1 gold and I reckon GB might be spot on that target.
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Post by rubcale on Aug 31, 2011 12:00:29 GMT 1
The Russian girl's total was 57 points more than Ennis has ever scored.
I wonder what will happen now?
Jess was going to be the Poster Girl for the 2012 Olympics.
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Post by Panda on Aug 31, 2011 13:53:12 GMT 1
The Russian girl's total was 57 points more than Ennis has ever scored. I wonder what will happen now? Jess was going to be the Poster Girl for the 2012 Olympics. And Ennis's javelin cost her 130 points. If you put together all her PBs, it comes to a total of 7037 points, so she is capable of at least that.
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