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Post by Panda on Sept 1, 2011 12:59:47 GMT 1
Fantastic silver medal for Hannah England in the 1500m!  |
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Post by rubcale on Sept 1, 2011 13:01:34 GMT 1
Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrilliant!
If only this had happened at the beginning of the Championships it would have set the whole team on a high.
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Post by Panda on Sept 1, 2011 13:35:59 GMT 1
GOLD FOR DAI GREENE!!
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Post by Panda on Sept 1, 2011 13:46:45 GMT 1
3 days to go, 5 medals, 1 gold, still Philips Idowu, Jenny Meadows, Mo Farah and the relays to come...
Wasn't expecting much from the men's 4x400m but GB did very well to qualify for the final 4th fastest overall and it looks like Dai Greene may come into the team for the final...
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Post by rubcale on Sept 2, 2011 11:57:53 GMT 1
Serems to be uneven performances for GB athletes.
Disappointingly, Jenny Meadows doesn't make final of 800m - she was next fastest loser.
Women's 4x400m qualify for final 3rd fastest but unless one of the favourites drops the baton they will do well to finish 4th.
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Post by Panda on Sept 2, 2011 12:35:12 GMT 1
Yes, a bit of a mixed day.
Disappointing for Jenny Meadows to miss the 800m final. Injury yet again robbed Chris Tomlinson of any medal hope in the long jump.
The women's javelin final was great and Goldie Sayers wouldn't have got near a medal even if she had performed well.
On the plus side, Philips Idowu is straight through to the triple jump final with one jump.
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Post by Panda on Sept 4, 2011 12:07:29 GMT 1
Perfect race by Mo Farah!!!
Idowu leading the triple jump with 17.70 at the halfway stage.
GB through to the men's sprint relay final...
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Post by Panda on Sept 4, 2011 12:17:48 GMT 1
Idowu just got Kenny Harrison'd.
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Post by Tom on Sept 4, 2011 15:15:38 GMT 1
7 medals including 2 gold for GB then. Its been a good games overall for GB imo.
I actually said to someone a week ago re the false starts issue "imagine the uproar if Bolt was to be DQ'd"... Lets just hope that all our top athletes stay fit for London 2012, as athletics seems to be a sport where you're always likely to get niggling injuries throughout the year. It almost seems as though Greg Rutherford coming into the long jump in good health was a bad omen!
Was never totally convinced about Idowu's chances of winning gold today, thought he'd either under-perform, or someone would come from nowhere to win the gold, which is exactly what happened. Guess i've seen too many mens triple jump finals to get too overexcited!
The only concern for me was Jess Ennis in the heptathlon. It seems as though her competitors have overtaken her; even her PB wouldn't have been enough to win gold in the end, and the gold medallist talked about improving for next year. Even with home support its going to be tough for her to win next year.
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Post by Panda on Sept 4, 2011 16:06:46 GMT 1
7 medals including 2 gold for GB then. Its been a good games overall for GB imo. I actually said to someone a week ago re the false starts issue "imagine the uproar if Bolt was to be DQ'd"... Lets just hope that all our top athletes stay fit for London 2012, as athletics seems to be a sport where you're always likely to get niggling injuries throughout the year. It almost seems as though Greg Rutherford coming into the long jump in good health was a bad omen! Was never totally convinced about Idowu's chances of winning gold today, thought he'd either under-perform, or someone would come from nowhere to win the gold, which is exactly what happened. Guess i've seen too many mens triple jump finals to get too overexcited! The only concern for me was Jess Ennis in the heptathlon. It seems as though her competitors have overtaken her; even her PB wouldn't have been enough to win gold in the end, and the gold medallist talked about improving for next year. Even with home support its going to be tough for her to win next year. I wouldn't worry too much about Jess. If her javelin had been as good as it could've been, she'd have won with a new PB and she underperformed in other events. There's plenty of room for improvement. Typical farce for the GB relay team today. I wouldn't blame Harry AA too much for the collision but as is so often the case for GB in the sprint relay, he set off too soon and Marlon Devonish never got near him... Definitely a medal chance missed though we probably would've been DQ'd over the collision anyway. |
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Post by vastar iner on Sept 4, 2011 16:13:03 GMT 1
Idowu just got Kenny Harrison'd. Still suspicious over the Harrison one. I don't think he got within 75cm of that one jump in the five years before or after. And into a headwind as well. |
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Post by rubcale on Sept 4, 2011 18:55:34 GMT 1
Was it a good games overall for GB?
I'd agree with Steve Cram who said that the final medal total was concealing major concerns in that below 5000m on the track there were only two medals for GB. Let's hope Hannah England can build on her success but Andy Turner got lucky.
Usual balls-up by 4x100m mens relay- HAA defo went too soon.
The women's 4 x 400m did as well as they could finishing 4th - where were they going to find 3 seconds from?
Will be interesting to see how this will affect Jess Ennis - there's no reason why she can't increase her overall points total but the Russian is younger and is improving by leaps and bounds.
Looking at the time it's hard to see how Jenny Meadows could have medalled today - the 800m is probably the most competitive track event for the women.
Not much Idowu could do today - he was within 4cm of his personal best and was outjumped.
Great performance form Farah today - I had a feeling he might be flat.
Perry Shakes-Drayton is looking a good prospect if she can stay injury free.
For me winners were William Sharman making the 110m hurdles final and Emma Jackson who although only 5th in her 800m semi ran a PB - that's all you can expect. Quite a few of our team under-performed.
What of Christine Ohuruogu? Is there any guarantee that she will be picked to defend her 400m title at the Olympics? Wasn't Seb Coe once not picked to defend hos 1500m title?
Thanks for the thread, mrh.
The schedule was particularly helpful. I used itwhenever I wanted to see what was on - the papers never seemed to carry the day's programme.
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Post by Panda on Sept 4, 2011 19:55:42 GMT 1
Was it a good games overall for GB? I'd agree with Steve Cram who said that the final medal total was concealing major concerns in that below 5000m on the track there were only two medals for GB. Let's hope Hannah England can build on her success but Andy Turner got lucky. But if you discount relays, that's pretty much on a par with recent world championships. And if our two gold medals had come in the 100m and 200m, Cram and Brendan Foster would be banging on yet again about the lack of success in British distance running. Some people are never happy. Yes, Turner got lucky, but Tiffany Porter throwing a medal away balances that out. I would say if there's a glaring weakness anywhere, it's in the field events. Aside from both triple jumps, we didn't get near a medal in any of them. Our successful events seem to go in cycles. A few years ago, you never would've thought we'd win world gold medals in the 400m hurdles and 5000m. We could easily have had 2 more gold medals (Farah and Ennis) and could easily have had at least 2 other medals (Porter and sprint relay). There were other medal hopes who were missing or weren't at 100% due to injuries. There's been a slow progression over the last 5 or 6 years and the potential is there for us to do very well next year. For the record our gold medal count at global championships since 1983 is: 2-3*-1-0-2-2-3-1-0-1-1-2-1-0-3-1-1-1-2-2 Our total medal count at the same championships is: 7-16*-8-8-7-6-10-5-6-6-7-6-2-3-5-3-5-4-6-7 * - no USSR at 1984 Olympics So you have to go back to 1993 for the last time GB got more than 7 medals at a global championships. |
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Post by Panda on Sept 4, 2011 20:02:46 GMT 1
Odds for Sports Personality of the Year:
11/10 Darren Clarke
3/1 Rory McIlroy
8/1 Mo Farah
12/1 Andy Murray
16/1 Mark Cavendish
33/1 Alistair Cook
40/1 Tom Daley (why??)
40/1 Dai Greene
80/1 Chris Ashton
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Post by Panda on Sept 4, 2011 22:03:02 GMT 1
Points table:
(difference in points from 2009 in brackets)
1. USA 206 (+18)
2. Russia 155 (+12)
3. Jamaica 88 (-3)
4. Great Britain 81 (-16)
4. Kenya 81 (+12)
6. Germany 80 (-26)
7. Ethiopia 66 (+6)
8. China 57 (+11)
9. Cuba 53 (+7)
10. France 52 (+6)
11. Ukraine 49 (+22)
12. Poland 40 (-33)
13. Australia 36 (-3)
14. Italy 35 (-3)
15. South Africa 33 (+7)
16. Japan 32 (-4)
17. Portugal 28 (-5)
18. Czech Republic 27 (+5)
18. Morocco 27 (+10)
20. Belarus 25 (+11)
21. Trinidad & Tobago 24 (-15)
22. Brazil 23 (+6)
23. Bahrain 17 (-8)
23. Norway 17 (-1)
25. Bahamas 16 (-13)
25. Spain 16 (-26)
27. Colombia 14 (+8)
28. Canada 12 (0)
28. St. Kitts & Nevis 12 (+12)
28. Sweden 12 (+2)
28. Turkey 12 (+4)
32. Belgium 11 (+6)
32. Nigeria 11 (+7)
34. Greece 10 (+1)
34. Lithuania 10 (+3)
34. Serbia 10 (+4)
37. Bulgaria 9 (+8)
37. Estonia 9 (+3)
37. Netherlands 9 (+3)
37. Slovenia 9 (-4)
37. South Korea 9 (+9)
37. Sudan 9 (+9)
43. Botswana 8 (+1)
43. Eritrea 8 (+1)
43. Grenada 8 (+8)
43. Hungary 8 (-1)
43. New Zealand 8 (-4)
43. Uganda 8 (+1)
49. Croatia 7 (-4)
49. Kazakhstan 7 (+6)
49. Puerto Rico 7 (0)
49. Qatar 7 (-4)
49. Romania 7 (-11)
49. Tunisia 7 (+3)
55. Iran 6 (+6)
55. Ireland 6 (-14)
55. Latvia 6 (0)
55. Moldova 6 (+6)
55. Zimbabwe 6 (+6)
60. Dominican Republic 5 (0)
60. India 5 (+5)
62. Antigua & Barbuda 4 (-2)
62. US Virgin Islands 4 (-4)
64. Algeria 3 (+2)
64. Ecuador 3 (+3)
64. Gabon 3 (+3)
64. Switzerland 3 (+1)
64. Tanzania 3 (0)
64. Uzbekistan 3 (+3)
64. Venezuela 3 (+3)
71. Cayman Islands 2 (+1)
71. Panama 2 (-5)
73. Denmark 1 (+1)
73. Finland 1 (-9)
73. Guatemala 1 (+1)
75 nations scored points which was one more than 2009.
Nations that scored in 2009 that didn't this time:
Cyprus (12)
Slovakia (10)
Barbados (8)
Mexico (8)
Azerbaijan (5)
Anguilla (4)
Bosnia-Herzegovina (3)
British Virgin Islands (3)
Guyana (3)
Ghana (2)
Zambia (2)
Austria (1)
Senegal (1)
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Post by rubcale on Sept 5, 2011 11:51:40 GMT 1
Odds for Sports Personality of the Year: 11/10 Darren Clarke 3/1 Rory McIlroy 8/1 Mo Farah 12/1 Andy Murray 16/1 Mark Cavendish 33/1 Alistair Cook 40/1 Tom Daley (why??) 40/1 Dai Greene 80/1 Chris Ashton If AndyM were to win USO................................. |
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Post by Shireblogger on Sept 6, 2011 12:50:57 GMT 1
Was it a good games overall for GB? I'd agree with Steve Cram who said that the final medal total was concealing major concerns in that below 5000m on the track there were only two medals for GB. Let's hope Hannah England can build on her success but Andy Turner got lucky. I'm sure Dai Greene won a medal as well. It was a good competition overall and for the UK team. In every championships we'll have a few competitors who fall below hopes/expectations, and few who do better. That's the nature of sport, and if results were determined solely by world rankings then how dull would that be ? Other talking points:- Usain Bolt. His DQ was a good thing in the long run. (1) Should cause the absurd false start rules to be reviewed. (2) Because he demonstrated such good sportmanship and honesty both at the time, and in his subsequent performances and interviews. Contrasts quite sharply with at least one British sprinter I could name. Oscar Pistorius & Castor Semanya competing. The debates which have revolved around their inclusion / exclusion in the past have been disgraceful. The demotion of Pistorius from the relay final team needs a proper explanation however. Women's javelin final. Who would have thought that a throwing event could be so exciting ? Jessica not winning gold. I sincerely hope this takes some of the attention and pressure off, so she can focus on her training, rather than the seemingly endless publicity demands and photo shoots. Empty stadium. I know that the IAAF is keen to take athletics away from its heartlands of support, but to stick it in an obscure Korean city, where there are no home competitors of any note, seems to be too extreme. Still, I guess every major sporting event will be held in the UAE before long, so maybe I shouldn't complain too much. |
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Post by vastar iner on Sept 7, 2011 6:42:19 GMT 1
The demotion of Pistorius from the relay final team needs a proper explanation however. I think it was politics. Had he anchored a medal winning team then the quartet who finished 4th would have surely protested. Even worse had they won. By not having him run, nobody could complain they got beat by an unfair advantage. OK, he got them to the final, so the team that missed out could have protested about that; however said team would surely not have been a medal chance, at best they would have been the 8th fastest quartet. Much less chance of a complaint being upheld and if Pistorius does have an unfair advantage the prejudice of missing out on a last-place final finish is far lower than the prejudice of missing out on a medal. |
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