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Post by Panda on Nov 28, 2011 11:59:26 GMT 1
The shortlist of 10 will be announced on The One Show tonight.
These would be my 10:
Mark Cavendish Rory McIlroy Darren Clarke Mo Farah Dai Greene Alistair Cook Rebecca Adlington Alistair Brownlee Keri-Anne Payne Chrissie Wellington
Honourable mentions: Dan Wheldon, Dario Franchitti, Andy Murray, Sarah Stevenson, John Higgins, Luke Donald
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Post by wonderwall on Nov 28, 2011 12:09:11 GMT 1
no clear winner this year could be anyone
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Post by Panda on Nov 28, 2011 12:14:16 GMT 1
no clear winner this year could be anyone I think it's between Cav and one of the golfers for the winner. Darren Clarke was favourite for a long time but has been overtaken by Cavendish. Farah could challenge for the top 3 but can't see anyone else winning.
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Post by wonderwall on Nov 28, 2011 12:17:19 GMT 1
yeah Darran clarke has a good chance
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Post by Panda on Nov 28, 2011 12:18:10 GMT 1
Odds:
5/4 Mark Cavendish 2/1 Darren Clarke 9/1 Rory McIlroy 10/1 Mo Farah 33/1 Luke Donald 33/1 Sam Warburton 66/1 Alistair Cook 66/1 Tom Daley 80/1 Dai Greene
several dozen others on 100/1 including Phil Taylor, Andy Murray, Andrew Strauss, Adlington, Wellington, Jenson Button, Amir Khan, Paul Scholes (another Man U betting sting/fix?),
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Post by Panda on Nov 28, 2011 12:21:30 GMT 1
Team of the year surely has to be the England cricket team this year - won the Ashes again and dominated India in the summer to become the #1 ranked test side in the world.
The Wales rugby team and the GB cycling road race team that helped Cavendish to victory would be my other contenders.
Andy Flower for coach of the year.
Overseas award will probably be between Novak Djokovic and Sebastian Vettel.
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Post by Paddy on Nov 28, 2011 17:50:31 GMT 1
Team Sky could be in for the team award. British cycling team. Had a good TdF and magnificent ToE.
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Post by Maximo Mark on Nov 28, 2011 20:37:55 GMT 1
Here's the 10. Interestingly there are no females on the list...
Mark Cavendish Darren Clarke Alastair Cook Luke Donald Mo Farah Dai Greene Amir Khan Rory McIlroy Andy Murray Andrew Strauss
I'd suspect three golfers may mean none of them will win as they'll take votes off each other. Cavendish to win it?
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Post by suedehead on Nov 28, 2011 22:32:51 GMT 1
I can't see the team award going to anyone other than the England cricket team. I would agree with Mark that the presence of three golfers on the list will probably mean that none of them will win.
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Post by Panda on Nov 29, 2011 0:05:26 GMT 1
I don't think Donald will pick up a lot of votes, but McIlroy and Clarke could definitely take votes off each other - both major winners and both from Northern Ireland.
Interestingly, only three of the ten on the shortlist were born in England.
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Post by Panda on Nov 29, 2011 1:33:10 GMT 1
Here are the full voting tallies after all 27 publications involved in the nominations process chose their top 10:
The Manchester Evening News should never be allowed to vote again.
27 votes: (unanimous) Rory McIlroy (golf) (won US Open with record low score, currently #2 in world rankings)
26 votes: Darren Clarke (golf) (won the Open Championship at Royal St. George's)
25 votes: Mo Farah (athletics) (won gold in 5000m and silver in 10000m at World Championships in Daegu)
23 votes: Mark Cavendish (cycling) (won 5 stages and green jersey in Tour de France, won road race at World Championships)
18 votes: Alistair Cook (cricket) (was Man of the Series as England won the Ashes in Australia, averaging 127)
17 votes: Dai Greene (athletics) (won gold in 400m hurdles at World Championships)
14 votes: Andy Murray (tennis) (reached final of Australian Open and semi-finals of French Open, Wimbledon and US Open
Andrew Strauss (cricket) (captained England to victory in the Ashes against Australia and in the summer against India as England became the top ranked team in test cricket)
11 votes: Luke Donald (golf) (won World Matchplay title, became world #1 and topped PGA Tour money list for 2011)
7 votes: Amir Khan (boxing) (defended his WBA light welterweight title with victory over Paul McCloskey, then added the IBF version by beating Zab Judah)
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6 votes: Rebecca Adlington (swimming) Jenson Button (F1)
5 votes: Alistair Brownlee (triathlon) (won world title for the second time) Keri-Anne Payne (swimming) (won gold in 10k open water event at World Championships) Graeme Swann (cricket)
4 votes: Jimmy Anderson (cricket) Stuart Broad (cricket) Sam Warburton (rugby union) (captained Wales to World Cup semi-finals)
3 votes: Gareth Bale (football) Carl Froch (boxing) (regained WBC super middleweight title with dominant victory over Arthur Abraham, beat Glen Johnson to qualify for final of Super Six tournament in December) Scott Parker (football) Sarah Stevenson (taekwondo) (won gold at World Championships) Sam Tomkins (rugby league/union) Sam Waley-Cohen (horse racing) (became first amateur jockey in 30 years to win Cheltenham Gold Cup and finished 2nd in Grand National) Chrissie Wellington (triathlon) (won Ironman World Championship for fourth time)
2 votes: Katherine Grainger (rowing) (won 6th World Championship gold medal) Victoria Pendleton (cycling)
1 vote: Nicola Adams (boxing) (won gold at European Amateur Championships) voted by The Voice Ben Ainslie (sailing) Ian Bell (cricket) Dimitar Berbatov (football) (voted by the Manchester Evening News) Glen Chapple (cricket) (captained Lancashire to County Championship) (voted by Manchester Evening News) Hannah England (athletics) (won silver in 1500m at World Championships) (voted by The Voice) Jessica Ennis (athletics) Dario Franchitti (Indycar) (won 3rd consecutive Indycar title and 4th in total) (voted by The Herald) George Groves (boxing) (added British super middleweight title to Commonwealth title) (voted by The Voice) Lewis Hamilton (F1) (voted by The Daily Star Sunday) Tony McCoy (horse racing) George North (rugby union) (part of Wales World Cup squad) Shanaze Reade (BMX) (voted by The Voice) Stef Reid (paralympic athletics) (voted by The Daily Mail) Jamie Roberts (rugby union) (part of Wales World Cup squad) Wayne Rooney (football) (voted by The Times) Paul Scholes (football) (voted by Manchester Evening News) Louis Smith (gymnastics) (won bronze on pommel horse at World Championships) (voted by The Voice) Yaya Toure (football) (voted by Manchester Evening News) Jonathan Trott (cricket) Judd Trump (snooker) (reached final of World Championship) (voted by Zoo) Hayley Turner (horse racing) (voted by The Sunday Times) Patrick Vieira (football) (voted by Manchester Evening News) David Weir (wasn't made clear whether this was the wheelchair athlete who won the London Marathon this year, or the Rangers and Scotland footballer - it was the Daily Telegraph who voted, so I would guess the former)
The 27 publications that voted were: Belfast Telegraph Daily Mail Daily Post Daily Star Daily Star Sunday Daily Telegraph Evening Standard The Guardian The Herald The Independent Irish News Mail on Sunday Manchester Evening News Metro The Mirror Nuts The Observer The People Sport Magazine The Sun Sunday Express Sunday Telegraph Sunday Times The Times The Voice Western Mail Zoo
So the Voice was clearly trying (and failing) to be clever, while the MEN just showed themselves up as a massive pack of w*nkers.
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Post by rubcale on Nov 29, 2011 14:12:22 GMT 1
Major brouhaha going on on Five Live over the fact that there are no females on the list - doesn't worry me per se - the sex of the sportsperson is of no consequence but there must be some question over the choice of some of the publications which were chosen to vote.
Agree with mrh - Manchester Evening News voting list was a disgrace.
Overall the ten finalists are worthy enough of their place - it's just a matter of personal perspective as to whether some of those who missed deserved it better.
Unfortunate fact of life that those in minority sports don't get the publicity so their achievements often get overlooked.
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Post by Panda on Nov 29, 2011 14:19:31 GMT 1
Overall the ten finalists are worthy enough of their place - it's just a matter of personal perspective as to whether some of those who missed deserved it better. Indeed. You can't really argue against the ones that are on there but it's just a shame some of the others (from sports that get less attention) had to miss out because of our short-sighted sports press.
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Post by Maximo Mark on Nov 29, 2011 17:58:46 GMT 1
There does seem to have been a LOT of criticism today for the lack of women in the list, and a lot has been aimed at Nuts and Zoo being able to have a vote, as neither nominated a woman and if they didn't vote, Adlington would be in ahead of Khan. But there were 10 publications who didn't nominate a single woman, and the BBC have said they've used the same method and generally the same pool as they have in the previous 5 years, where at least two women have been nominated every year.
The problem is it's hard to say that any of the nominees don't deserve to be there, I could possibly argue against Khan as he's only had one fight but then boxers don't tend to fight much and they get nominated as often as they don't, and possibly Murray but he's usually in and hasn't really done any worse than in other years so it's hard to say why drop him for this year. It's clearly been a great year for the men too, and they're the sports and personalities which get the most coverage and interest too. It's the fault of the media in general really.
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Post by Panda on Nov 29, 2011 18:09:32 GMT 1
The BBC are trying to pass the blame but they have to take their share as some of those who missed out would've had more coverage if their sports weren't constantly relegated to the red button.
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Post by raliverpool on Nov 29, 2011 20:03:18 GMT 1
I think it is outrageous that Sarah Stevenson (taekwondo) failed to make the list.
In May she won her third world title, beating the reigning Olympic champion. That same year she had lost her mother, to terminal cancer, and her father to a brain tumour. He died 10 days after his wife's funeral. "It helped that my parents wanted me to go to the world championships," she said at the time. "I feel like I've got a switch in my head where one day I could be crying and wanting to go home, then I'm there to fight and win."
Certainly far more deserving than a number of those males who made the shortlist.
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Post by suedehead on Nov 29, 2011 21:03:40 GMT 1
I think it is outrageous that Sarah Stevenson (taekwondo) failed to make the list. In May she won her third world title, beating the reigning Olympic champion. That same year she had lost her mother, to terminal cancer, and her father to a brain tumour. He died 10 days after his wife's funeral. "It helped that my parents wanted me to go to the world championships," she said at the time. "I feel like I've got a switch in my head where one day I could be crying and wanting to go home, then I'm there to fight and win." Certainly far more deserving than a number of those males who made the shortlist. There's not much point in nominating someone most people have never heard of from a sport about which most people know nothing. She's more likely to be a candidate for the Helen Rollason award given for "outstanding achievement in the wake of adversity".
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Post by wonderwall on Nov 30, 2011 4:40:41 GMT 1
berbatov got a vote agree manchester evening news list is awful
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Post by suedehead on Dec 8, 2011 16:48:43 GMT 1
The shortlist of three for the Young SPOTY has been announced - Lucy Garner (Cycling), Eleanor Simmonds (Swimming) and Lauren Taylor (Golf).
I demand a pubic inquiry into why all the contenders are female. This is an outrageous slur on all the young male competitors up and down the country.
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Post by Panda on Dec 8, 2011 16:59:21 GMT 1
The shortlist of three for the Young SPOTY has been announced - Lucy Garner (Cycling), Eleanor Simmonds (Swimming) and Lauren Taylor (Golf). I demand a pubic inquiry into why all the contenders are female. This is an outrageous slur on all the young male competitors up and down the country. Classic BBC...
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