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Post by Chris on Jun 16, 2012 18:08:50 GMT 1
Brazil is only four hours behind the UK. I looked at the FIFA site a couple days ago. The dates are all fixed but not the kick-off times. My guess is they'll try to suit European boadcasters by having kick-offs about 4pm there then so from 8pm in Europe. |
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Post by Panda on Jun 16, 2012 18:34:26 GMT 1
It's not that simple, Chris. The World Cup tends to feature three matches a day during the group stages so they can't all be played at that time.
During the 1994 World Cup in the USA the kick-off times for the UK were generally around 5pm, 8pm and 11:30pm.
The last World Cup in South Africa had local kick-off times of 12:30, 4:00, and 8:30. If the 2014 World Cup has the same times, that would mean 4:30, 8:00 and 12:30 for the UK and an hour later for western Europe.
I can't see them playing games too early in the morning but we might get 11:00am kick-offs so the times for the UK might be something like 3pm, 6:30pm and 11pm.
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Post by Paddy on Jun 16, 2012 19:09:03 GMT 1
Be too hot in middle of the day surely.
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Post by Panda on Jun 16, 2012 19:31:24 GMT 1
If FIFA was remotely bothered about that kind of thing, they wouldn't have given the 2022 World Cup to Qatar.
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Post by Panda on Jun 16, 2012 19:39:43 GMT 1
GROUP A AS IT STANDS:
(both games 0-0)
1. Russia 5 (+3)
2. Czech Rep 4 (-2)
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3. Poland 3 (0)
4. Greece 2 (-1)
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Post by Panda on Jun 16, 2012 20:34:22 GMT 1
Greece take the lead against Russia right on half-time!
Greece 1-0 Russia
Poland 0-0 Czech Rep
AS IT STANDS AT HALF-TIME
1. Russia 4 (+2)
2. Greece 4 (0)
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3. Czech Rep 4 (-2)
4. Poland 3 (0)
If the Czechs or Poland get a winner, Russia would suddenly drop from 1st to 3rd!
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Post by Paddy on Jun 16, 2012 20:39:38 GMT 1
Russia going out would be a shock.
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Post by Panda on Jun 16, 2012 21:15:30 GMT 1
Czech Republic take the lead against Poland!
Greece 1-0 Russia
Poland 0-1 Czech Rep
AS IT STANDS - 20 MINS TO GO
1. Czech Rep 6 (-1)
2. Greece 4 (0)
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3. Russia 4 (+2)
4. Poland 2 (-1)
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Post by Panda on Jun 16, 2012 21:38:27 GMT 1
Czech Republic and Greece through! Russia and Poland out!
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Post by Mart!n on Jun 16, 2012 21:41:55 GMT 1
I watched the Czech game, I wasn't that impressed with the match bit scrappy with 8 yellow cards, surprised Russia have gone out and Greece go through, I wasn't expected that. The last minute of the game could have changed everything if the ball when in, oh well, that's football.
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Post by Paddy on Jun 16, 2012 21:44:20 GMT 1
Hoping the Czech's go far  |
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Post by o on Jun 16, 2012 21:51:45 GMT 1
Russia didn't look like the same team that took apart the Czechs! Poland didn't play like they wanted to go through either. I do find it ridiculous that goal difference and goals scored are not counted above matches between teams first. But the teams knew the rules before it started, it just seems odd to see Greece above Russia when Russia's GD is better by two goals.
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Post by suedehead on Jun 16, 2012 22:01:15 GMT 1
It's not that simple, Chris. The World Cup tends to feature three matches a day during the group stages so they can't all be played at that time. During the 1994 World Cup in the USA the kick-off times for the UK were generally around 5pm, 8pm and 11:30pm. The last World Cup in South Africa had local kick-off times of 12:30, 4:00, and 8:30. If the 2014 World Cup has the same times, that would mean 4:30, 8:00 and 12:30 for the UK and an hour later for western Europe. I can't see them playing games too early in the morning but we might get 11:00am kick-offs so the times for the UK might be something like 3pm, 6:30pm and 11pm. There's no reason why the kick-off times should be that far apart. Kick-off times of, say, 14:00, 17:00 and 19:30 would be a reasonable compromise for south American and European viewers. Max temperatures for Rio and Sao Paulo in the next few days are in the mid to high 20s. |
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Post by Admin on Jun 16, 2012 22:05:13 GMT 1
Is that normal temps. for there or are they having a crap summer like us as well? I dread to think what it will be like in Qatar!
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Post by suedehead on Jun 16, 2012 22:09:28 GMT 1
Russia didn't look like the same team that took apart the Czechs! Poland didn't play like they wanted to go through either. I do find it ridiculous that goal difference and goals scored are not counted above matches between teams first. But the teams knew the rules before it started, it just seems odd to see Greece above Russia when Russia's GD is better by two goals. I don't like the head-to-head ruling, not least because you can't work out the positions just by looking at a simple league table. However, apparently one of the reasons behind it was to avoid a repeat of the 1978 World Cup situation where Argentina needed a big win against Peru - who had already gone out - to stay in the competition. The immediate change following that was to have the final group matches kick off simultaneously but UEFA went on to make a further change. |
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Post by suedehead on Jun 16, 2012 22:12:02 GMT 1
Is that normal temps. for there or are they having a crap summer like us as well? I dread to think what it will be like in Qatar! That is roughly the seasonal average. No idea what the humidity is like. |
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Post by Mart!n on Jun 16, 2012 22:16:14 GMT 1
Bearing in mind we have to qualify first to play in Brazil and Quatar. Its only Brazil that get a free ticket as they are hosting it. Unless they have changed the rules.
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Post by Panda on Jun 16, 2012 22:43:43 GMT 1
I don't like the head-to-head ruling, not least because you can't work out the positions just by looking at a simple league table. However, apparently one of the reasons behind it was to avoid a repeat of the 1978 World Cup situation where Argentina needed a big win against Peru - who had already gone out - to stay in the competition. The immediate change following that was to have the final group matches kick off simultaneously but UEFA went on to make a further change. Actually, having the final games kick off simultaneously wasn't introduced until 1984, after the infamous 1982 World Cup game where Germany and Austria passed the ball around for 80 minutes, knowing no further change in the score would put both teams through and send Algeria out. I'm not sure when UEFA introducted head-to-head over goal difference but it wasn't in place in 1984 but was in place at Euro 96, which saw Czech Republic qualify ahead of Italy due to head-to-head record. |
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Post by Panda on Jun 16, 2012 22:44:50 GMT 1
Bearing in mind we have to qualify first to play in Brazil and Quatar. Its only Brazil that get a free ticket as they are hosting it. Unless they have changed the rules. So? There'll still be 31 other teams there. And it'll still be on TV if we don't qualify. |
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Post by suedehead on Jun 16, 2012 22:51:43 GMT 1
I don't like the head-to-head ruling, not least because you can't work out the positions just by looking at a simple league table. However, apparently one of the reasons behind it was to avoid a repeat of the 1978 World Cup situation where Argentina needed a big win against Peru - who had already gone out - to stay in the competition. The immediate change following that was to have the final group matches kick off simultaneously but UEFA went on to make a further change. Actually, having the final games kick off simultaneously wasn't introduced until 1984, after the infamous 1982 World Cup game where Germany and Austria passed the ball around for 80 minutes, knowing no further change in the score would put both teams through and send Algeria out. I'm not sure when UEFA introducted head-to-head over goal difference but it wasn't in place in 1984 but was in place at Euro 96, which saw Czech Republic qualify ahead of Italy due to head-to-head record. Oh, I thought it was after the '78 World Cup but I remember the Austria v West Germany game as well. I know the head-to-head rule was introduced fairly recently but apparently the Argentina v Peru game was part of their reasoning. I can see their reasoning but I still don't like it. |
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