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Post by Mart!n on Jun 16, 2012 23:05:29 GMT 1
Bearing in mind we have to qualify first to play in Brazil and Quatar. Its only Brazil that get a free ticket as they are hosting it. Unless they have changed the rules. So? There'll still be 31 other teams there. And it'll still be on TV if we don't qualify. I was meant to press Andy's quote button regarding the heat, at least they can stay at home in the shade
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Post by Panda on Jun 16, 2012 23:26:14 GMT 1
It's just been announced England will face Scotland in a friendly at Wembley next year.
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Post by Mart!n on Jun 16, 2012 23:38:58 GMT 1
Check this scenario for Group B tomorrow, now my head hurts /photo/1/large
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Post by paulgilb on Jun 17, 2012 0:11:09 GMT 1
Still nobody seems certain what happens when a 3-way tie on points drops to a 2-way tie...
As for Group A - congratulations to Czech Republic for topping their group despite a negative GD (thanks to their 4-1 defeat to Russia). And commiserations to Russia for going out despite getting the only positive GD in their group.
What happened in Group A also demonstrated a slight quirk in the head-to-head rule, namely that Czech Republic's goal against Poland caused the order of Russia and Greece to swap (despite nothing happening in their game at that moment).
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Post by Panda on Jun 17, 2012 0:44:23 GMT 1
OK, it turns out UEFA stuck this on their web site two weeks before the tournament began:
"Two key amendments to the UEFA EURO 2012 regulations have come into force following their ratification by the UEFA Executive Committee.
The amendments concern paragraph 8.07, dealing with determination of the final rankings of teams who are equal on points at the end of the group matches – and paragraphs 10.08 and (new) 10.09, concerning measures to be taken in the event of a match being abandoned.
Final group rankings To avoid doubt, and in order to ensure that the criteria related to the direct confrontation between the teams remaining equal in points after the group phase are reapplied, the UEFA Executive Committee decided at its meeting in Istanbul on 20 March 2012 to amend paragraph 8.07 of the Regulations of the UEFA European Football Championship 2010–12 as follows – in particular the new clause d) shown in bold:
"If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the following criteria are applied to determine the rankings: a) Higher number of points obtained in the matches played between the teams in question; b) Superior goal difference resulting from the matches played between the teams in question; c) Higher number of goals scored in the matches played between the teams in question; d) If, after having applied criteria a) to c), two teams still have an equal ranking, criteria a) to c) are reapplied exclusively to the matches between the two teams in question to determine the final rankings of the two teams. If this procedure does not lead to a decision, criteria e) to i) apply in the order given; e) superior goal difference in all group matches; f) higher number of goals scored in all group matches; g) position in the UEFA national team coefficient ranking system (see annex I, paragraph 1.2.2); h) fair play conduct of the teams (final tournament); i) drawing of lots" "
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Post by Shireblogger on Jun 17, 2012 8:38:46 GMT 1
Is that normal temps. for there or are they having a crap summer like us as well? I dread to think what it will be like in Qatar! That is roughly the seasonal average. No idea what the humidity is like. Most Brazilian cities are in the southern hemisphere. Thus June and July are usually the coolest months. Heat shouldn't be a huge problem during the World Cup, although in some cities humidity might be.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Jun 17, 2012 9:30:11 GMT 1
Still cant believe the worst 2 teams got out that group, greece have been awful and czech republic got beat 4-1 by a team that didnt qualify ha. i have to say i prefer goal difference
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Post by Tom on Jun 17, 2012 12:14:08 GMT 1
It's just been announced England will face Scotland in a friendly at Wembley next year. This has been in the pipeline, was hoping it would be confirmed, IIRC it's likely to be an August game, as it's a game that hopefully i'll be going to with quite a few people! Still cant believe the worst 2 teams got out that group, greece have been awful and czech republic got beat 4-1 by a team that didnt qualify ha. i have to say i prefer goal difference Still can't believe it either, fully expected Poland and Russia to go through even though on the one occasion I saw Russia (v Poland) i thought they were poor, hence not expecting them to win last night especially when all they needed to go through was a draw. From the highlights it did look they were doing the absolute minimum needed to get the job done. Watched Poland-Czech game, first time i've seen the Czechs and thought they were an average side which doesn't surprise me as i don't know that many of their players. Couldn't quite believe how bad Poland were, they were awful 2nd half and didn't think they were quite as good as they were made out to be 1st half. For all their good approach play they didn't quite test the keeper enough I felt. Overall Poland have been a bit disappointing, their failure not to win their opening game came back to haunt them as I thought it would...
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Post by ligerdog7 on Jun 17, 2012 12:16:19 GMT 1
Yes, if England and France have the same result, it comes down to goal difference (and then goals scored if that's level) to decide who finishes higher in the group. If they both win or draw, then they both qualify and it will be to decide who finishes top of the group. If they both lose, it will be to decide who finishes 2nd in the group behind Ukraine. Uruguay are a team from South America (same continent as Brazil and Argentina) who got to the semi-finals of the last World Cup and won the Copa America last year. They were the first ever winners of the World Cup in 1930 and won it again in 1950. Liverpool striker Luis Suarez is from Uruguay. World Cup qualifying for all the European teams starts in September. England's qualifying group features Poland, Ukraine, Montenegro, Moldova and San Marino. wow i see kool when last time Uruguay played last time played england rezult vens next update fifa world rannkings soon hope cheers dude i gets it hurrey up tusday long england win ven next game be carnt be russia out started well sweden out 2 right mooo ligers moooooooooooo nooo diigtyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy wuufyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy uppppppppppppp ;D
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Post by Tom on Jun 17, 2012 12:20:12 GMT 1
If FIFA was remotely bothered about that kind of thing, they wouldn't have given the 2022 World Cup to Qatar. Interestingly, the IOC (think it was them) have ruled out Qatar to host the Olympics in the future, "too hot" apparently. You have to laugh...
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Post by Paddy on Jun 17, 2012 15:05:26 GMT 1
I really hope portugal v holland is the same as 6 years ago .
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Post by paulgilb on Jun 17, 2012 15:29:12 GMT 1
A nice (?) piece of symmetry re Russia: 4 years ago they lost their first game 4-1 and reached the semi-finals, this year they won their first game 4-1 and did not progress. Who said that a team's first game is important?
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Post by o on Jun 17, 2012 15:35:58 GMT 1
I really hope portugal v holland is the same as 6 years ago . That was shocking, what punishment did they receive for that shambles?
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Post by Paddy on Jun 17, 2012 16:04:31 GMT 1
Didnt the ref get sent him for his appalling display.
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Post by Panda on Jun 17, 2012 20:03:48 GMT 1
Early lead for Holland against Portugal! But as it stands, they're both going out.
AS IT STANDS
1. Germany 7 (+2) 2. Denmark 4 (0) (3-3) ----------------------- 3. Holland 3 (-1) (2-3) 4. Portugal 3 (-1) (3-4)
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Post by Paddy on Jun 17, 2012 20:06:45 GMT 1
Make that 1-0 Germany
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Post by Panda on Jun 17, 2012 20:08:45 GMT 1
Germany take the lead against Denmark!
AS IT STANDS
1. Germany 9 (+3) 2. Portugal 3 (-1) ----------------------- 3. Denmark 3 (-1) 4. Holland 3 (-1)
HEAD-TO-HEAD-TABLE: 1. Portugal 3 (0) (3-3) 2. Denmark 3 (0) (3-3) 3. Holland 3 (0) (1-1)
Another Dutch goal will put them up to 2nd in the group.
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Post by Panda on Jun 17, 2012 20:11:19 GMT 1
Equaliser for Denmark!
AS IT STANDS
1. Germany 7 (+2) 2. Denmark 4 (0) ----------------------- 3. Holland 3 (-1) 4. Portugal 3 (-1)
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Post by Panda on Jun 17, 2012 20:13:15 GMT 1
Equaliser for Portugal!
AS IT STANDS
1. Germany 7 (+2) 2. Portugal 4 (0) ----------------------- 3. Denmark 4 (0) 4. Holland 1 (-2)
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Post by Paddy on Jun 17, 2012 20:13:59 GMT 1
Back to what we had 25 mins ago...
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