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Post by raliverpool on Jun 19, 2012 20:40:12 GMT 1
People saying Rooney should not play or get in the squad get real.He is the one world class we have he has to play under any circumstances. Ha Ha Ha. Even Stevie Wonder could see that Wayne Rooney is manifestly not match fit. He has missed an absolute sitter, and has consistently given possession away cheaply and has over hit a significant number of crosses. In short he is playing like someone returning from injury who has not played competitive football for over one month. The only time England have threatened is when Johnson had a run and beat a couple of Ukrainians then won a free kick. We need incisiveness and pace. We need the Ox or Walcott, with Carroll in the middle.
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Post by Mart!n on Jun 19, 2012 20:44:10 GMT 1
We are crap
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Post by ligerdog7 on Jun 19, 2012 21:41:01 GMT 1
1st half yes but scond half we fregging masterclaases bits what ace goal from 1 saying roonie i blowing my horrns dont offten say dat oggyes kool moooooooooooooooooo yoooooooooooo nooo diggtyy upppppppppppppppppppppppppp ;D
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Post by Shireblogger on Jun 19, 2012 21:42:43 GMT 1
Can anyone explain what is the purpose of the bloke in yellow on the goal line ?
Knowing how I felt in South Africa, I feel sorry for the Ukrainians.
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Post by Mart!n on Jun 19, 2012 21:44:09 GMT 1
Job done, but overall it was crappy in places, at least we play Italy in the quarters, we might have a chance to progress further, as long as we don't go to sleep.
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Post by o on Jun 19, 2012 21:44:27 GMT 1
Well we squeaked that one, nice to see Rooney get the goal, if you're going to criticise him, you have to criticise Young and Milner as well, because they were just as poor. Anyway, bring on Italy. Oh and can someone explain what scenario meant France were going out tonight, because I couldn't work it out. Because if Ukraine went above them, we went below them...
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Post by Mart!n on Jun 19, 2012 21:45:05 GMT 1
Can anyone explain what is the purpose of the bloke in yellow on the goal line ? A Ukrainian was off side
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Post by Shireblogger on Jun 19, 2012 21:46:30 GMT 1
Can anyone explain what is the purpose of the bloke in yellow on the goal line ? A Ukrainian was off side Did the bloke on the goal line know that ? Is it his job to decide whether or not the linesman has spotted offsides ?
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Post by ligerdog7 on Jun 19, 2012 21:47:25 GMT 1
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Post by suedehead on Jun 19, 2012 21:51:47 GMT 1
Well we squeaked that one, nice to see Rooney get the goal, if you're going to criticise him, you have to criticise Young and Milner as well, because they were just as poor. Anyway, bring on Italy. Oh and can someone explain what scenario meant France were going out tonight, because I couldn't work it out. Because if Ukraine went above them, we went below them... Not if France lost by a greater margin than England. If goal difference and goals scored had been the same, England would also have been above France.
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Post by Mart!n on Jun 19, 2012 21:53:23 GMT 1
Did the bloke on the goal line know that ? Is it his job to decide whether or not the linesman has spotted offsides ? I don't think so, the goal post was in the way, England got lucky, but the ball was definitely over the line.
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Post by suedehead on Jun 19, 2012 21:55:23 GMT 1
Can anyone explain what is the purpose of the bloke in yellow on the goal line ? Knowing how I felt in South Africa, I feel sorry for the Ukrainians. Except that it was offside so shouldn't have counted anyway. Typically daft comment from Andy Townsend in asking why the official didn't move to get a better view. How about because it happened rather too quickly for him to have moved. The picture ITV produced using their gadgetry was clearer than the still shot. That's why I have always supported goal-line technology (which could be used in the Premier League for part of next season) but not video evidence. If the commentators mentioned the result of their gadgetry as soon as the techies had produced it, that was several minutes after the incident.
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Post by suedehead on Jun 19, 2012 21:57:33 GMT 1
Did the bloke on the goal line know that ? Is it his job to decide whether or not the linesman has spotted offsides ? I don't think so, the goal post was in the way, England got lucky, but the ball was definitely over the line. He was level with the post so it should have been a case of whether or not he saw the whole of the ball or whether part of it was still hidden by the post. My first thought when seeing it live and at full speed (albeit not from the ideal angle) was that it was comfortably over. Replays soon showed it was very tight.
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Post by Maximo Mark on Jun 19, 2012 21:59:07 GMT 1
Well we squeaked that one, nice to see Rooney get the goal, if you're going to criticise him, you have to criticise Young and Milner as well, because they were just as poor. Anyway, bring on Italy. Oh and can someone explain what scenario meant France were going out tonight, because I couldn't work it out. Because if Ukraine went above them, we went below them... If Sweden had won 3-0 and Ukraine beat us 2-1, both us and France would have 4 points, the 1-1 draw would take it to goal difference overall, theirs would be -1, England's would be 0.
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Post by raliverpool on Jun 19, 2012 22:32:00 GMT 1
As a Liverpool supporter, there were many occasions last season when I would have happily taken an undeserved victory with a poor performance over a good performance outplaying the opposition with no cutting edge in the final third resulting in less than a victory. Ukraine were mugged tonight, but that's why it's the beautiful game. "Ingurland, Ingurland, Ingurland ...."
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Post by paulgilb on Jun 19, 2012 22:43:38 GMT 1
So 4 of the 5 teams that won their opening games (Russia, Denmark, Croatia, Ukraine) have gone out in the group stage. Just a shame that Germany couldn't make it 5 (although going into the final round of group games it was not possible for Germany and Denmark both to go out).
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Post by ligerdog7 on Jun 19, 2012 22:47:55 GMT 1
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Jun 19, 2012 22:49:36 GMT 1
at the end of the day, their shot that crossed the line was offside, infact that linesman had a shocker, it wasnt the only blatent offside he missed, then the ball was over the line, a draw would still mean we top the group so hard for ukraine, it made no real difference for us
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Post by ligerdog7 on Jun 19, 2012 22:51:16 GMT 1
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