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Post by raliverpool on Jun 17, 2013 20:41:41 GMT 1
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Post by Paddy on Jun 17, 2013 22:06:38 GMT 1
not good to hear.
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Post by Shireblogger on Jun 17, 2013 22:11:42 GMT 1
For 89, he looks good. I wish him well; I've always had a soft spot for Murray.
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Post by paulgilb on Jun 17, 2013 22:40:14 GMT 1
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Post by paulgilb on Jun 29, 2013 18:26:01 GMT 1
Grid for Britain:
1 Hamilton 2 Rosberg 3 Vettel 4 Webber 5 di Resta 6 Ricciardo 7 Sutil 8 Grosjean 9 Raikkonen 10 Alonso 11 Button 12 Massa 13 Vergne 14 Perez 15 Hulkenberg 16 Maldonado 17 Bottas 18 Gutierrez 19 Pic 20 Bianchi 21 Chilton 22 van der Garde (penalty from Canada)
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Post by paulgilb on Jun 30, 2013 19:10:59 GMT 1
What a weird race! Those tyre failures were scary! Although it is not the first time that there have been 4 rear tyre failures in one race - in Turkey 2005 both Williams drivers suffered 2 right-rear tyre failures (makes sense given that Silverstone is clockwise and Istanbul is/was anticlockwise).
A few other stats:
Raikkonen now has the outright record for consecutive points finishes (25). 5th consecutive Silverstone podium for Webber - most podiums at any circuit for him. He has also always finished a different position to where he started. Second year in a row that Vettel has retired from the lead in the race after Canada. In both races, there were a lot of position changes in the last few laps (including Webber charging up the field).
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Post by Shireblogger on Jul 1, 2013 6:55:53 GMT 1
Whilst I like a race where things get intringuingly mixed up, I don't like one where it puts the safety of drivers, marshalls &/or spectators at risk.
But I am concerned that too many teams run their tyres at pressures and cambers which are outside Pirelli's recommended limits, and then blame Pirelli when the tyres fail.
Strategy and pit stops make F1 more exciting, so I hope we don't get a counter-reaction which creates tyres which last for 2 hours.
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Post by Paul on Jul 1, 2013 9:45:21 GMT 1
It reminded be of Indy 2004, the year before the Michelin runners pulled out. There were several rear tyre failures that weekend - Ralf who shunted, Alonso and Button had delaminations, and I'm sure there were a few more.
In the end I sympathise with Pirelli. They've been put in an impossible position where they can't (legally) test their tyres with 2013 spec cars. It's very clear that the cars have developed much more this season than Pirelli anticipated, and they haven't been able to produce a tyre that can handle this because they are working blind.
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Post by paulgilb on Jul 2, 2013 23:19:05 GMT 1
A few other stats that I discovered/read elsewhere:
Since the start of 2010, all bar 1 of Vettel’s retirements (Italy 2012) have come from (or shortly after losing) the lead (this includes Turkey 2010, where he just got in front of Webber). He also suffered a problem whilst leading in Bahrain 2010 which cost him a win.
Silverstone has seen 11 different winners since 2000 (as has Monaco).
This race was somewhat similar to Hungary 2008 - Hamilton started on pole alongside his team mate. Hamilton suffered a tyre failure, dropping back, but recovered to score some points. The driver starting 3rd led until the late stages before retiring with a mechanical problem, allowing Hamilton's team-mate to win. Also, IIRC Hungary 2008 saw 3 separate drivers suffer small pit-lane fires - and Britain 2013 saw multiple tyre failures!
Alonso has the same number of points (111) as he had after 8 races last year.
The only other driver to have managed 5 consecutive podiums at Silverstone is Raikkonen.
First time Hamilton has managed 4 consecutive front-row starts since Germany-Italy 2011.
First time since 2007 that neither Red Bull has been on the front row in Silverstone. Only the third top 5 start for a Toro Rosso - following Italy 2008 (when they qualified 1st and 4th).
18 races without a front-row start for Alonso - equals his worst run (2001 + first race of 2003).
Ferrari started in the same positions (9th and 11th) as in the 2009 race. 500th race with a Ferrari on the podium.
Vettel has led 10,000km - only the 5th driver to do so (after Schumacher, Senna, Prost, Clark).
First time that Force India have managed 3 consecutive double-points finishes.
Neither Red Bull car has officially been overtaken in the last 5 British GPs (I believe the official stats exclude lap 1, pitstops and mechanical failures).
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Post by paulgilb on Jul 6, 2013 23:54:41 GMT 1
Grid for Nurburgring: 1 Hamilton 2 Vettel 3 Webber 4 Raikkonen 5 Grosjean 6 Ricciardo 7 Massa 8 Alonso 9 Button (no time in Q3) 10 Hulkenberg (no time in Q3) 11 Rosberg 12 di Resta 13 Perez 14 Gutierrez 15 Sutil 16 Vergne 17 Bottas 18 Maldonado 19 Pic 20 Bianchi 21 van der Garde 22 Chilton
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Post by Shireblogger on Jul 7, 2013 7:38:45 GMT 1
For the past couple of seasons, I've thought Rosberg has been rather under-rated by most motor sports pundits and commentators. Today will be an interesting test. Can he climb into the top 4, after his strategist got his sums totally wrong during qualifying ?
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Post by paulgilb on Jul 9, 2013 23:14:56 GMT 1
Some stats that I noticed/discovered elsewhere:
Vettel currently has more wins than poles in 2013 (I believe this is the first time this has been the case at any point during a season).
All teams have seen a car miss Q3 at least once this season.
Alonso has broken his longest fastest lap drought, and Ferrari's longest since the early 1990s.
10 races without a win for Hamilton - equals his longest winless streak (Brazil 2008 - Germany 2009).
First race since India 2012 that no Mercedes powered car led a lap.
3 different drivers have each had 3 poles this season so far.
First time Vettel has beaten Webber at Nurburgring - he has now done so at all current circuits.
Vettel's first win in July.
Vettel's first win in Europe since Italy 2011.
Hamilton has started the last 5 races from the front row and not won any of them - the last driver to do this was Montoya with his infamous run of 5 poles in 2002 (in both cases, none of the driver's front row starts were even converted into a top 2 finish).
First time since 1998 that none of the rookies have scored after 9 races.
Since joining Ferrari, Alonso's car has never made it back to the pit lane at the end of a Nurburgring GP.
The last 2 races have been won by drivers who celebrated birthdays a few days before the race (3 and 4 respectively).
The only 2 previous occasions on which a team were on 0 points after 9 races having won a race the previous season (like Williams this year) are Hesketh in 1976 and March in 1977 (both of which failed to score all season) - and they had both lost their race-winning drivers, unlike Williams.
Both Red Bulls, both Lotuses, and both Mercedes finished in the same positions as in Bahrain.
Over half of Grosjean’s podiums have been Vettel-Raikkonen-Grosjean in that order. Whenever Grosjean has finished on the podium a Lotus (either him or Raikkonen) has finished 2nd.
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Post by paulgilb on Jul 27, 2013 19:19:20 GMT 1
Grid for Hungary:
1 Hamilton 2 Vettel 3 Grosjean 4 Rosberg 5 Alonso 6 Raikkonen 7 Massa 8 Ricciardo 9 Perez 10 Webber (no time in Q3) 11 Sutil 12 Hulkenberg 13 Button 14 Vergne 15 Maldonado 16 Bottas 17 Gutierrez 18 di Resta 19 Pic 20 van der Garde 21 Bianchi 22 Chilton First time Hamilton has ever managed 3 consecutive poles.
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Post by raliverpool on Jul 28, 2013 15:57:41 GMT 1
Today, Lewis Hamilton joins Juan Manuel Fangio as the ONLY two drivers in F1 history to win at least one GP in EACH of their first seven seasons.
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Post by paulgilb on Jul 28, 2013 22:18:53 GMT 1
Fangio didn't compete in 1952, though.
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Post by paulgilb on Aug 3, 2013 12:07:15 GMT 1
Some more stats from Hungary that I discovered/read elsewhere:
First even-numbered car to win this season.
3rd time in the last 4 races that the 4th-place finisher has scored fastest lap.
All 4 of Hamilton's wins in Hungary have seen Raikkonen finish 2nd.
Hamilton won by 10.938s driving car 10 in his 10th race for Mercedes, exactly 10 months after announcing he would drive for them.
Hamilton has 1 point fewer than Button overall (1037 vs 1038).
Alonso's longest podium-less run since Hungary - Belgium 2012 (2 races).
Germany and France now both have 298 podiums (Brazil is only 10 behind). Britain is some way ahead on 583.
Raikkonen is only the 2nd driver to achieve 5 2nd place finishes at the same GP - the other being Schumacher (in both San Marino and Canada).
6th year in a row that Vettel has started the Hungarian GP higher than he finished it.
Both Mercedes drivers have managed a run of 3 poles, converting only the last one to a win.
First venue where Hamilton has been on pole 4 times, and first at which he has won 4 times.
All of Hamilton’s Hungary podiums have been wins – also the case at Germany (2 wins), India (0 wins), and USA (2 wins from 2 starts).
Sutil is the 3rd driver to have managed 100 starts without a podium finish – after Pierluigi Martini (118) and Philippe Alliot (109).
Bianchi’s first back-row start.
First time since the end of 2009 that there are fewer than 3 teams on 0 points.
All teams have now had at least 2 race-ending mechanical failures except for Ferrari, who have had none.
First time that Raikkonen has managed 16 consecutive top 10 starts (thanks in part to his engine penalties in 2005).
First time since China – Spain 2011 (3 races) that Force India have gone 2 races without scoring.
Hamilton scored his 30th pole at the same circuit where Prost managed his 30th pole 20 years ago.
First British driver to manage 3 consecutive poles since Damon Hill in 1996.
Hamilton’s 2 longest win droughts have both ended in Hungary.
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Post by paulgilb on Aug 24, 2013 23:13:24 GMT 1
Grid for Belgium: 1 Hamilton 2 Vettel 3 Webber 4 Rosberg 5 di Resta 6 Button 7 Grosjean 8 Raikkonen 9 Alonso 10 Massa 11 Hulkenberg 12 Sutil 13 Perez 14 van der Garde (was 3rd in Q1) 15 Bianchi 16 Chilton 17 Maldonado 18 Vergne 19 Ricciardo 20 Bottas 21 Gutierrez 22 Pic Hamilton's 4th consecutive pole ends a run of 9 consecutive Belgian GPs (2002-2012 bar 2003 and 2006) with different pole-sitters.
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Post by paulgilb on Aug 28, 2013 23:48:01 GMT 1
2012: traditionally 'bad' circuits (Valencia, Abu Dhabi) produce exciting races 2013: traditionally 'good' circuits (Montreal, Spa) produce not-so-exciting races
Some stats that I discovered/read elsewhere:
2nd time in the last 4 years that the Spa winner has only missed out on the Grand Slam (pole, fastest lap, led every lap, win) due to missing out on pole.
First time that Hamilton has not been off the track at any point during the Belgian GP.
Last time that we had 3 consecutive identical front rows - Vettel-Hamilton in Hungary, Belgium, Italy 2011.
3rd lights-to-flag win in Belgium in the last 4 years.
Massa ties Hakkinen for 3rd place in Most Races With One Team table (131).
First British driver to manage 4 consecutive poles since Damon Hill in 1995.
First time Button has started 2 consecutive Belgian GPs from the top 10.
A McLaren has qualified 13th in all of the last 4 races.
Pic is now the only 2013 driver not to have reached Q2 this year.
di Resta's first race-ending crash since Brazil 2012 (9 months to the day previously).
Rosberg has scored more points already in 2013 than he managed in the whole of 2012.
Chilton's last 5 races: 19-17-19-17-19.
Alonso now has the longest unbroken streak of points finishes (9), Hamilton & Chilton have the longest unbroken streak of race finishes (11), and Button has the longest unbroken streak of classified finishes (15).
4th season in a row in which Vettel has managed 5+ wins - only Senna and Schumacher (5 seasons) have managed this previously.
Perez's 12th 11th-place finish (from 48 starts) - he is still yet to finish 12th.
Chilton is only the 3rd driver to finish each of his first 11 GPs - after Monteiro (16), Hamilton (15) and Kovalainen (16 - including 1 classified DNF).
Grosjean's first 8th-place finish in F1. He is still yet to finish 5th (and has only started there once).
First time Alonso has completed lap 1 at Spa without being hit since 2008.
Alonso has finished on the podium for Ferrari at every track at which he has raced for the team.
Vettel and Hamilton both managed their 54th podium and 56th front row start.
Romain Grosjean completed a full racing lap of Spa for the first time in F1.
First time Vettel has won the 11th race of the season - he is still to win the 10th or 20th (the latter having only happened once).
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Post by Shireblogger on Aug 29, 2013 3:30:31 GMT 1
Did Vettel lead every lap ? I though Button had the lead temporarily after Vettel made his first pit stop ?
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Post by paulgilb on Aug 29, 2013 18:44:45 GMT 1
Vettel did lead every lap - he passed Button before the end of his out lap.
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