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Post by Shireblogger on Aug 29, 2013 19:11:50 GMT 1
^^ Thanks
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Post by paulgilb on Sept 7, 2013 19:35:27 GMT 1
Grid for Monza: 1 Vettel 2 Webber 3 Hulkenberg 4 Massa 5 Alonso 6 Rosberg 7 Ricciardo 8 Perez 9 Button 10 Vergne 11 Raikkonen 12 Hamilton 13 Grosjean 14 Maldonado 15 di Resta 16 Gutierrez 17 Sutil (penalty for blocking) 18 Bottas 19 van der Garde 20 Pic 21 Bianchi 22 Chilton
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Post by paulgilb on Sept 11, 2013 23:04:20 GMT 1
Some stats re Italy that I discovered/read elsewhere:
Vettel's podium is the 300th by a German driver.
Hamilton's first failure to reach Q3 since Malaysia 2010.
3rd time in 5 races that the highest Ferrari-powered car on the grid was not a Ferrari.
First time since 1966 that 3 Ferrari-powered cars started in the top 5 in Monza.
Perez's first 12th-place finish after 12 11th-place finishes.
Vettel has more podiums than Hamilton for the first time (55 vs 54).
Monza is (for the time being!) Vettel’s joint most successful circuit in terms of number of wins (3), equalling Sepang and Suzuka.
Vettel’s 3 Monza wins-from-pole are his only poles and his only podiums there.
Webber’s podium means that the only circuit that Webber raced on in every season but never finished on the podium is Melbourne.
Red Bull finally have more Monza podiums than Toro Rosso.
First time since 2004 that neither McLaren was a podium contender going into the final lap at Monza.
Red Bull become the first team to score back-to-back wins this year – curiously, races 11 & 12 were the first such occurrence last year as well (this time by McLaren in Hungary & Belgium). The last time we had to wait longer was 1983, when it did not happen until races 14 and 15 which were both won by Brabham (as was race 16, the final race).
All the drivers finishing from 3rd to 10th inclusive, bar Hulkenberg, all finished in those positions for the second time this year.
11 drivers managed faster laps than the winner’s fastest during the race – the only race with more is Italy 2008 (13), also won by Vettel.
First time since 1983 that neither McLaren qualified in the top 7 in Monza.
First time since India 2011 that both Toro Rossos started in the top 10 (although they did get both cars into Q3 in Canada 2013 before Ricciardo was penalised), and the first time since India 2011 that the team currently known as Lotus missed Q3 with both cars.
First time since the start of 2009 that Raikkonen has gone 2 races without scoring.
Vettel has led exactly 49 laps in all 3 of his Monza wins.
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Post by borneoman on Sept 12, 2013 8:10:34 GMT 1
what do you guys think about Raikkonen moving to Ferrari? personally I think it's great, about time they replaced Massa
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Post by Shireblogger on Sept 12, 2013 11:04:55 GMT 1
I'm looking forward to all the toys flying out of Alonso's pram next year.
Will be interesting to contrast one of the most exciting and talented drivers of the past 20 years (Alonso), with one of the most methodical and consistent (Raikkonen).
I think it is good for F1, but I don't envy Stefano Domenicali.
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Post by Paddy on Sept 12, 2013 11:44:34 GMT 1
I think Ferrari will start the year with a poor car and improve during the season
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Post by Panda on Sept 12, 2013 13:12:27 GMT 1
Anything that annoys Alonso will always be good. Hopefully if Ferrari get their act together, we won't see as many Vettel snooze-fests that have blighted this season.
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Post by Paddy on Sept 12, 2013 13:34:25 GMT 1
Alonso is now the main sponsor of the eusketel euskede cycling team. So he's not all bad. But he's still a spoilt boy. Also I know raikkonen has a large following but I'm trying to work out why. He's very mysterious and not a showman on circuit!
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Post by paulgilb on Sept 21, 2013 23:29:28 GMT 1
Grid for Singapore: 1 Vettel 2 Rosberg 3 Grosjean 4 Webber 5 Hamilton 6 Massa 7 Alonso 8 Button 9 Ricciardo 10 Gutierrez (no time in Q3) 11 Hulkenberg 12 Vergne 13 Raikkonen 14 Perez 15 Sutil 16 Bottas 17 di Resta 18 Maldonado 19 Pic 20 van der Garde 21 Bianchi 22 Chilton
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Post by smokeyb on Sept 22, 2013 17:30:51 GMT 1
Another Vettel snoozefest, did you notice more and more fans are booing him on the podium,his domination is ruining the sport in my opinion. Its Schumacher all over again.
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Post by Panda on Sept 22, 2013 18:10:10 GMT 1
It's never good to have one driver/team dominating and this season has been the dullest since the Schumacher days. However, I think it's unfair for the fans to boo Vettel when he's just doing his job. Their anger should be aimed at the other teams who've done a p*ss poor job of competing with Red Bull this year.
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Post by paulgilb on Sept 24, 2013 23:02:30 GMT 1
Some stats that I discovered/read elsewhere:
Vettel is the first driver to manage 3 consecutive wins at the same circuit since Massa in Turkey 2006-08.
# of safety car appearances in Singapore GPs: 2-1-2-1-2-1.
Vettel's biggest margin of victory - over 10 seconds more than his next biggest (Australia 2011).
Raikkonen has tied Barrichello for most 3rd place finishes (28).
Singapore 2012: both front-row starters failed to finish. Singapore 2013: both second-row starters failed to finish.
Renault's 160th fastest lap as an engine supplier - equals Ford Cosworth (the latter's tally excluding 1 just as Cosworth). Ferrari are ahead on 231.
3rd race in a row with the same top 2 in the same order: last happened Europe-Canada-USA 2004 (Schumacher-Barrichello). Last time it happened 'on track' (as R Schumacher was DQ'd from 2nd in Canada 2004) was Europe 1997 - Brazil 1998 (Hakkinen & Coulthard). Close call - Belgium-Italy-Singapore 2011 (Vettel won all 3 with Button finishing 3-2-2). Close call - USA-France-Germany 2006 (Schumacher won all 3, Massa finished 2-3-2). Close call - Spain to Canada 2006 (3 Alonso-Schumacher 1-2's in 4 races - the 2 races prior to that were Schumacher-Alonso).
Apparently it is the first time ever that 2 drivers from different teams have finished 1-2 in the same order in 3 consecutive races.
The worse Raikkonen qualifies at Singapore, the higher he finishes.
Grosjean in 2013 has had 4 points-scoring finishes, then 4 no-scores, then 4 more points-scoring finishes, and now a no-score.
Pic's lowest classified finish.
Only Webber and Chilton are yet to start a race ahead of their team-mates this season.
Maldonado is now the only driver from an established team not to have reached Q3 in 2013.
Red Bull have managed the same number of podiums and wins so far in 2013 as in the whole of 2012.
Last driver to win a dry race by a bigger margin - Raikkonen in Hungary 2005. Hamilton won the wet Britain 2008 by over a minute.
Alonso has scored the same number of podiums for Ferrari as for Renault (41).
Raikkonen has now finished on the podium at every track that he raced on prior to his sabbatical.
Both Lotus drivers have finished on the podium after starting outside the top 10 once this season - the only drivers to have done so in 2013.
di Resta has had as many non-mechanical DNFs in the last 3 races as he had in his first 2 seasons (3).
Ricciardo's first driving-error DNF.
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Post by Paul on Sept 24, 2013 23:03:01 GMT 1
Vettel was exceptional in Singapore so it was disappointing to see him booed again. It annoys me when people discredit his achievements because it's not like Mark Webber ever got close to him in the time they were teammates.
As for Raikkonen to Ferrari, it will be interesting to see. I think Alonso is much more mature than when Hamilton was his teammate so I'd like to think he could deal with a competitive teammate now. I've never seen a driver be more consistently brilliant and overperform the car than Alonso in the last 3 years, and he'll take that confidence with him up against Kimi. The car is the big question mark, and from what I've heard Ferrari look to be furthest behind with the engine package for next year.
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Post by paulgilb on Sept 24, 2013 23:11:36 GMT 1
Drivers who can still win the Drivers' Championship (150 points available):
1 Vettel 247 2 Alonso 187 3 Hamilton 151 4 Raikkonen 149 5 Webber 130 6 Rosberg 116
Vettel could clinch the title as early as Japan (2 races' time).
Teams that can still win the Constructors' Championship (258 points available):
1 Red Bull 377 2 Ferrari 274 3 Mercedes 267 4 Lotus 206
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Post by paulgilb on Oct 5, 2013 19:42:14 GMT 1
Grid for Korea:
1 Vettel 2 Hamilton 3 Grosjean 4 Rosberg 5 Alonso 6 Massa 7 Hulkenberg 8 Gutierrez 9 Raikkonen 10 Perez 11 Button 12 Ricciardo 13 Webber (penalty from Singapore) 14 Sutil 15 di Resta 16 Vergne 17 Bottas 18 Maldonado 19 Pic 20 van der Garde 21 Chilton 22 Bianchi (penalty for blocking)
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Post by Panda on Oct 6, 2013 15:53:26 GMT 1
The best thing about this F1 season has been Suzi Perry. Mmmm... Suzi Perry...
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Post by Paul on Oct 6, 2013 16:10:02 GMT 1
The little bit of Beeb coverage I've seen this year she's been awful. But I suspect that's not what you meant!
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Post by paulgilb on Oct 8, 2013 23:18:21 GMT 1
Some stats/facts that I discovered/read elsewhere re Korea:
208th Renault-powered pole, equalling Ferrari engines.
3rd Vettel-Raikkonen-Grosjean podium this year. Last podium to occur 3 times (in the same order) in one season: Alonso-Schumacher-Raikkonen in 2006.
All 5 of Grosjean's 3rd place finishes to date have seen Raikkonen finish 2nd (Vettel won 4 of those races, Hamilton 1).
Vettel has already managed more podiums in 2013 (11) than in either 2010 or 2012 (10).
On both occasions that Webber has started outside the top 10 this year he has failed to finish.
10th top 14 finish for Gutierrez without a point. Bottas has finished all bar one race inside the top 16 and hasn’t scored a point.
di Resta has not scored for the last 6 races (crashing out of the last 4), having only failed to score once in the first 8 races. A quick check of statsf1.com suggests that Andrea de Cesaris (who was often prone to crashing) never managed to crash out of 4 consecutive races!
First time Bianchi has started behind Chilton. 4th time in the last 5 races that Marussia have locked out the back row, having not done so previously in 2013.
Only Webber is yet to start a race ahead of his team-mate in 2013.
First time since Italy 2012 that there have been 3 classified non-finishers. On that occasion as well, these included both cars from one of the Red Bull owned teams.
Under the ‘medals’ system, Vettel would have clinched the title (he has 8 wins, no-one else has more than 2, and there are only 5 races left)
Alonso has now finished in every top 8 position at least once this year (in fact he has finished exactly once in each position from 3rd to 8th).
Second race in a row that Vettel has led every lap but not actually led the entire race.
Only current tracks on which Raikkonen has not been on the podium are Greater Noida and Austin (although he has been on the podium in the US at Indy).
First Korean GP in which neither Mercedes has been involved in a collision.
Alonso has qualified in 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th in the 4 Korean GPs.
28th time that Alonso has qualified 5th, equalling Barrichello’s record.
Both Sauber drivers matched their best finishes to date.
First time since India 2011 that Alonso lost a place on the opening lap and completed said lap.
Webber’s joint longest win drought since he started winning.
Vettel has led all bar 2 of the laps that he has raced in Korea (2 laps during the pitstops in 2011).
16th time that Hamilton has started 2nd behind a Red Bull – M Schumacher holds the record (23 races starting 2nd behind a Williams).
20th Vettel-Hamilton front row, equalling Vettel-Webber (in either order in both cases).
The top 4 drivers can mathematically win, as can the top 4 teams.
For Vettel to clinch the title in Japan, he needs to win without Alonso finishing in the top 8. Raikkonen needs to outscore Vettel by at least 6 points in Japan to stand any chance, and Hamilton needs to outscore Vettel by 12 points to stand any chance.
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Post by Paddy on Oct 11, 2013 14:01:54 GMT 1
RIP Maria De Villota. A very tough F1 career and life cut short very much too soon.
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Post by paulgilb on Oct 12, 2013 12:26:05 GMT 1
RIP Maria Grid for Japan: 1 Webber 2 Vettel 3 Hamilton 4 Grosjean 5 Massa 6 Rosberg 7 Hulkenberg 8 Alonso 9 Raikkonen 10 Button 11 Perez 12 di Resta 13 Bottas 14 Gutierrez 15 Maldonado 16 Ricciardo 17 Vergne 18 Chilton 19 van der Garde 20 Pic (penalty from Korea) 21 Bianchi (penalty from Korea) 22 Sutil (gearbox penalty) First time Vettel has not been on pole at Suzuka. Pic has also become the first driver ever to receive a drive-through penalty before the race has even started (he jumped a red light in Q1).
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