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Post by Panda on Jul 31, 2013 14:52:34 GMT 1
It's footy season time again! That means it's time to predict what's going to happen and see who looks like a clever Trevor in May.
PREMIER LEAGUE Arsenal Aston Villa Cardiff City Chelsea Crystal Palace Everton Fulham Hull City Liverpool Manchester City Manchester United Newcastle United Norwich City Southampton Stoke City Sunderland Swansea City Tottenham Hotspur West Bromwich Albion West Ham United
CHAMPIONSHIP Barnsley Birmingham City Blackburn Rovers Blackpool Bolton Wanderers AFC Bournemouth Brighton & Hove Albion Burnley Charlton Athletic Derby County Doncaster Rovers Huddersfield Town Ipswich Town Leeds United Leicester City Middlesbrough Millwall Nottingham Forest Queens Park Rangers Reading Sheffield Wednesday Watford Wigan Athletic Yeovil Town
LEAGUE ONE Bradford City Brentford Bristol City Carlisle United Colchester United Coventry City Crawley Town Crewe Alexandra Gillingham Leyton Orient Milton Keynes Dons Notts County Oldham Athletic Peterborough United Port Vale Preston North End Rotherham United Sheffield United Shrewsbury Town Stevenage Swindon Town Tranmere Rovers Walsall Wolverhampton Wanderers
LEAGUE TWO Accrington Stanley Bristol Rovers Burton Albion Bury Cheltenham Town Chesterfield Dagenham & Redbridge Exeter City Fleetwood Town Hartlepool United Mansfield Town Morecambe Newport County Northampton Town Oxford United Plymouth Argyle Portsmouth Rochdale Scunthorpe United Southend United Torquay United Wimbledon Wycombe Wanderers York City
CONFERENCE PREMIER Aldershot Town Alfreton Town Barnet Braintree Town Cambridge United Chester Dartford Forest Green Rovers Gateshead Grimsby Town Halifax Town Hereford United Hyde Kidderminster Harriers Lincoln City Luton Town Macclesfield Town Nuneaton Town Salisbury City Southport Tamworth Welling United Woking Wrexham
SCOTTISH PREMIER Aberdeen Celtic Dundee United Heart of Midlothian Hibernian Inverness Caledonian Thistle Kilmarnock Motherwell Partick Thistle Ross County St. Johnstone St. Mirren
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Post by Panda on Jul 31, 2013 23:45:04 GMT 1
FourFourTwo's predictions:
PREMIER LEAGUE 1. Chelsea 2. Man City 3. Man Utd 4. Arsenal 5. Tottenham 6. Liverpool 7. Swansea 8. West Ham 9. Southampton 10. Everton 11. Aston Villa 12. West Brom 13. Newcastle 14. Fulham 15. Norwich 16. Cardiff 17. Stoke 18. Sunderland 19. Hull 20. Crystal Palace
CHAMPIONSHIP 1. Reading 2. Bolton 3. Leeds 4. Charlton 5. Forest 6. Ipswich 7. Derby 8. Leicester 9. Wigan 10. Birmingham 11. Brighton 12. Watford 13. Middlesbrough 14. QPR 15. Blackpool 16. Burnley 17. Sheff Wed 18. Bournemouth 19. Blackburn 20. Barnsley 21. Huddersfield 22. Millwall 23. Doncaster 24. Yeovil
LEAGUE ONE 1. Peterborough 2. Brentford 3. Wolves 4. Preston 5. Bradford 6. MK Dons 7. Sheff Utd 8. Tranmere 9. Rotherham 10. Bristol C 11. Coventry 12. Gillingham 13. Stevenage 14. Leyton Orient 15. Swindon 16. Colchester 17. Carlisle 18. Crewe 19. Port Vale 20. Crawley 21. Walsall 22. Oldham 23. Notts County 24. Shrewsbury
LEAGUE TWO 1. Chesterfield 2. Fleetwood 3. Portsmouth 4. Scunthorpe 5. Cheltenham 6. Oxford 7. Bristol R 8. Northampton 9. Rochdale 10. Newport 11. Burton 12. Mansfield 13. Southend 14. Wycombe 15. Plymouth 16. York 17. Torquay 18. Bury 19. Hartlepool 20. Exeter 21. Morecambe 22. Wimbledon 23. Accrington 24. Dag & Red
CONFERENCE 1. Kidderminster 2. Grimsby 3. Forest Green 4. Luton 5. Wrexham 6. Cambridge 7. Barnet 8. Hereford 9. Woking 10. Chester 11. Tamworth 12. Braintree 13. Gateshead 14. Halifax 15. Welling 16. Alfreton 17. Dartford 18. Lincoln 19. Nuneaton 20. Hyde 21. Salisbury 22. Macclesfield 23. Southport 24. Aldershot
SCOTTISH PREMIER 1. Celtic 2. Aberdeen 3. Motherwell 4. St. Johnstone 5. Dundee Utd 6. Hibernian 7. Inverness 8. St. Mirren 9. Ross 10. Partick 11. Kilmarnock 12. Hearts
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Post by Panda on Aug 2, 2013 14:50:12 GMT 1
Right, I'll go first:
I'll leave the Premier League until the transfer shenanigans are finished.
CHAMPIONSHIP Promoted: Reading, Leeds Playoffs: Wigan, Bolton, Leicester, Birmingham Relegated: Barnsley, Yeovil, Huddersfield
LEAGUE ONE Promoted: Wolves, Peterborough Playoffs: MK Dons, Sheff Utd, Brentford, Preston Relegated: Coventry, Swindon, Oldham, Stevenage
LEAGUE TWO Promoted: Portsmouth, Cheltenham, Chesterfield Playoffs: Burton, Bristol Rovers, Scunthorpe, Hartlepool Relegated: Dagenham, Exeter
CONFERENCE Promoted: Grimsby Playoffs: Forest Green, Kidderminster, Luton, Barnet Relegated: Aldershot, Hyde, Halifax, Macclesfield
SCOTTISH PREMIER 2nd: St. Johnstone Relegated: Hearts
NORTHERN LEAGUE DIV 1 Champions: Spennymoor Top 3: Celtic Nation, Shildon Relegated: Hebburn, Billingham Town, Bedlington
NORTHERN LEAGUE DIV 2 Promoted: Jarrow Roofing, Seaham, Northallerton Relegated: Esh Winning, Alnwick
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Post by suedehead on Aug 2, 2013 15:51:55 GMT 1
Right, I'll go first: I'll leave the Premier League until the transfer shenanigans are finished. CHAMPIONSHIP Promoted: Reading, Leeds A promotion festival then
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Post by suedehead on Aug 2, 2013 18:32:57 GMT 1
Here are the current quotes for points totals on Sporting Index. In each case I've given the mid point of the quoted range.
Premier League
Chelsea 81 Manchester City 81 Manchester United 79 Arsenal 73.5 Tottenham Hotspur 65.5 Liverpool 65 Everton 53.5 Newcastle United 45.5 Southampton 45.5 Swansea City 45.5 West Bromwich Albion 44 West Ham United 43.5 Aston Villa 43.5 Fulham 42.5 Sunderland 42.5 Norwich City 40.5 Stoke City 40 Cardiff City 37.5 Hull City 34 Crystal Palace 31.5
Championship
Queens Park Rangers 75.5 Watford 74.5 Wigan Athletic 72 Bolton Wanderers 71.5 Brighton & Hove Albion 70 Nottingham Forest 70 Leicester City 69.5 Leeds United 65.5 Ipswich Town 64.5 Derby County 63.5 AFC Bournemouth 62 Blackburn Rovers 61.5 Charlton Athletic 59 Birmingham City 59 Middlesbrough 58.5 Sheffield Wednesday 57.5 Millwall 56 Blackpool 55.5 Huddersfield Town 55 Burnley 55 Barnsley 53 Doncaster Rovers 52 Yeovil Town 49
For some reason Reading are missing. Do they know something I don't?
League One
Wolverhampton Wanderers 77 Bristol City 73.5 Brentford 73 Peterborough United 73 Franchise FC (MK Dons) 72 Sheffield United 71.5 Preston North End 71 Rotherham United 66 Bradford City 64 Gillingham 63 Swindon Town 62.5 Leyton Orient 62 Crawley Town 61 Crewe Alexandra 60.5 Tranmere Rovers 59.5 Port Vale 58 Notts County 57.5 Coventry City No quote Oldham Athletic 56.5 Walsall 55.5 Carlisle United 54.5 Shrewsbury Town 53.5 Colchester United 52 Stevenage 52
No quote for Coventry given their current plight.
League Two
Portsmouth 74.5 Chesterfield 74.5 Fleetwood 72.5 Cheltenham 71 Bristol Rovers 69.5 Oxford United 69.5 Northampton Town 69 Burton Albion 68.5 Scunthorpe United 68 Hartlepool United 65 Wycombe Wanderers 62 Rochdale 62 Southend United 59.5 Bury 59.5 Plymouth Argyle 59 Exeter City 59 Mansfield Town 58.5 York City 57 Newport 56.5 Torquay United 55 AFC Wimbledon 55 Morecambe 54 Dagenham & Redbridge 51.5 Accrington Stanley 51
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Post by Maximo Mark on Aug 2, 2013 19:14:23 GMT 1
I can't see past Watford for the Championship title. I wrote a preview for the Championship last weekend and said I could see at least 18 teams have a chance at the play-offs.
01 Watford 02 Reading - 03 Wigan 04 Forest 05 Bolton 06 Ipswich - 07 Derby 08 Blackburn 09 Leicester 10 Millwall 11 Leeds 12 QPR 13 Barnsley 14 Brighton 15 Middlesbrough 16 Sheffield Wednesday 17 Huddersfield 18 Charlton 19 Bournemouth 20 Birmingham 21 Yeovil 22 Doncaster 23 Blackpool 24 Burnley
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Post by Tom on Aug 2, 2013 21:48:35 GMT 1
1 QPR 87 2 Forest 80 3 Leeds 79 4 Reading 78 5/6 Ipswich 74 5/6 Watford 74 7 Bolton 72 8 Bournemouth 69 9 Leicester 68 10 Huddersfield 67 11-13 Brighton 65 11-13 Charlton 65 11-13 Blackpool 65 14-16 Derby 61 14-16 Burnley 61 14-16 Blackburn 61 17/18 Barnsley 60 17/18 Wigan 60 19 Sheffield Wednesday 58 20 Yeovil 57 21 Birmingham 56 22 Middlesbrough 54 23 Millwall 53 24 Doncaster 46/47
Birmingham may miss Redmond more than I realise in which case i'd swap them with Boro. If Thomas Ince leaves Blackpool, and I am surprised he's still there, before the summer transfer window shuts I think they'll probably go down.
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Post by Tom on Aug 2, 2013 22:00:31 GMT 1
Leagues 1 and 2 Phil Parkinson did an amazing job getting Bradford promoted and it wouldn't surprise me if he took them up again (though I wouldn't say automatically). He did take Colchester to an unexpected promotion from this division before after all.. Gillingham I thought needed to improve the squad, they relied a lot on loan players in winning the title last season. They seem to have done this with the signings of Akinfenwa and Cody McDonald (2 great loan spells for the latter - one last season and the other under Hess I think). I thought they needed to improve their home form to do well this season i.e. to challenge for the playoffs (they went down last time at this level because of the complete contrast between their home record and away record - then it was their home record that was much stronger), but on the evidence of the odd pre-season result I've heard it doesn't seem to have done. So no playoff push but would still like to think they'll survive finishing anywhere from mid-table to 20th. For o Mansfield - don't think there's a big difference between conf and this division, step up yes but that's all. 2 key departures but without knowing how good or bad the signings are (none stood out as being names i'd heard of) I think you'll stay up, maybe fairly comfortably with say 58/59 points to finish lower half mid-table.
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Post by Shireblogger on Aug 2, 2013 23:41:41 GMT 1
It's footy season time again! That means it's time to predict what's going to happen and see who looks like a clever Trevor in May. PREMIER LEAGUE
Arsenal Aston Villa Cardiff City Chelsea Crystal Palace Everton Fulham Hull City Liverpool Manchester City Manchester United Newcastle United Norwich City Southampton Stoke City Sunderland Swansea City Tottenham Hotspur West Bromwich Albion West Ham United I think your prediction that they'll finish in alphabetical order is a little unlikely.
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Post by Shireblogger on Aug 2, 2013 23:42:02 GMT 1
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Post by Shireblogger on Aug 2, 2013 23:42:56 GMT 1
Both 4-4-2 and Sporting Index are wildly overestimating Southampton for 2013/14. At best, they'll improve by 2-3 places on 2012/13.
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Post by suedehead on Aug 2, 2013 23:46:43 GMT 1
Both 4-4-2 and Sporting Index are wildly overestimating Southampton for 2013/14. At best, they'll improve by 2-3 places on 2012/13. I think Sporting Index are also over-estimating Bournemouth although, as they are my local league side, I'd love to be proved wrong.
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Post by Tom on Aug 4, 2013 11:32:24 GMT 1
If you see my predictions you'll see that in my opinion they're not overestimating Bournemouth at all Eddie Howe's points per game last season would have seen Bournemouth close to 100 points, and unlike Chris Powell who IIRC took Charlton up with 102 points in 2011-12 Howe has the advantage of Championship experience. Whilst on the face of it the idea of Bournemouth finishing Top 6 seems fanciful, and the signings don't suggest the playoffs are the aim, while I may have slightly overestimated them myself I do genuinely believe they will finish top half. If anything Howe may prove to be a better Championship manager for Bournemouth than he was for Burnley simply because they are his club. I hope i'm proved right as I like him as a manager and it would be nice to see him continue to do well at Bournemouth.
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Post by Tom on Aug 4, 2013 11:51:34 GMT 1
After thinking about my predictions a bit more in the last couple of days (nothing to do with yesterday's results) I've changed my Championship table. Got a gut feeling that Forest will be 2nd and it will be a Leeds-Reading playoff final...
Also, think I was harsh on Donny and having also looked at their summer signings it's made a really big difference to their points total. They're still finishing bottom though...
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Post by suedehead on Aug 4, 2013 12:02:46 GMT 1
If you see my predictions you'll see that in my opinion they're not overestimating Bournemouth at all Eddie Howe's points per game last season would have seen Bournemouth close to 100 points, and unlike Chris Powell who IIRC took Charlton up with 102 points in 2011-12 Howe has the advantage of Championship experience. Whilst on the face of it the idea of Bournemouth finishing Top 6 seems fanciful, and the signings don't suggest the playoffs are the aim, while I may have slightly overestimated them myself I do genuinely believe they will finish top half. If anything Howe may prove to be a better Championship manager for Bournemouth than he was for Burnley simply because they are his club. I hope i'm proved right as I like him as a manager and it would be nice to see him continue to do well at Bournemouth. I certainly agree that Howe is better equipped to do well this year than he was at Burnley. The extra experience as well as the fact that Bournemouth are his club should help. He has been a favourite at Bournemouth since his playing days so it's great to see him doing well. He says himself that the Burnley job was too big for him at the time (he's still only 35) but he felt under pressure to move after turning down other jobs. He was afraid of being accused of lacking ambition. I'm sure most supporters would be delighted with a mid-table finish.
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Post by Tom on Aug 4, 2013 15:07:12 GMT 1
Have had a rethink on Bolton's key departures, Marcus Alonso and Kevin Davies, and have adjusted Bolton up accordingly. I may do an updated table once the transfer window has shut if any big notable deals go through between now and then.
My PL table will go up at the end of the window, too much seems to happen in the final 2 weeks of August and I can certainly see that being the case this year. It would be a lot easier if the window closed before the season started...
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Post by Maximo Mark on Aug 7, 2013 18:36:14 GMT 1
01 - Man City 02 - Chelsea 03 - Man Utd 04 - Arsenal 05 - Liverpool 06 - Spurs 07 - Swansea 08 - Norwich 09 - Everton 10 - Fulham 11 - West Ham 12 - Aston Villa 13 - Stoke 14 - Southampton 15 - Cardiff 16 - Newcastle 17 - Sunderland 18 - West Brom 19 - Hull 20 - Palace
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Aug 7, 2013 18:49:38 GMT 1
PREMIER LEAGUE 1. Chelsea 2. Man City 3. Man Utd 4. Arsenal 5. Liverpool 6. Tottenham 7. Everton 8. Swansea 9. Newcastle 10. Fulham 11. West Ham 12. Southampton 13. Aston Villa 14. Norwich 15. Sunderland 16. West Brom 17. Hull 18. Cardiff 19. Stoke 20. Crystal Palace
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Aug 7, 2013 19:01:40 GMT 1
CHAMPIONSHIP 01 Wigan 02. Watford - 03 Reading 04 QPR 05 Bolton 06 Forest - 07 Blackburn 08 Leeds 09 Leicester 10 Ipswich 11 Middlesbrough 12 Brighton 13 Derby 14 Birmingham 15 Charlton 16 Blackpool 17 Bournemouth 18 Burnley 19 Yeovil 20 Doncaster 21 Millwall 22 Barnsley 23 Huddersfield 24 Sheffield Wednesday
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Aug 7, 2013 22:22:23 GMT 1
LEAGUE ONE Promoted: Peterborough, Brentford Playoffs: Sheff Utd, Wolves, Preston, Bradford Relegated: Shrewsbury, Coventry, Swindon, Walsall
LEAGUE TWO Promoted: Chesterfield, Scunthorpe, Portsmouth Playoffs: Oxford, Fleetwood, Bristol Rovers, Cheltenham, Relegated: Dag & Red, Morecambe
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