World Athletics Championships 2013

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Aug 16, 2013 20:44:39 GMT 1 raliverpool said:

Aug 16, 2013 18:09:53 GMT 1 rubcale said:

Simply superb. He has all the moves covered.

mrh, can you explain this.

I wasn't fully aware of the position regarding Greg Rutherford and Chris Tomlinson but though I did after your previous explanation i.e. neither had achieved the A standard and in this case a country can only send 1 athlete who has the B standard.

However BBC2 this after noon they were having a discussion about the long jump. I was at a critical stage in preparing the dinner and didn't get a chance to fully understand everything they were saying.

Denise Lewis pronounced that they should have sent both athletes (which on my understanding they couldn't do) which Paula Radcliffe then chipped in to say) but Gabbi Logan then stated they should have invoked some rule of which I didn't get any other details.

Michael Johnson then stated that he agreed with Denise and would have included both Greg and Chris.

I wouldn't really have thought Denise wouldn't have known the correct rules although I was thinking maybe that was just possible but I can't believe Michael Johnson wouldn't have known them.

Any ideas?

I've watched a load of this World Championships and have not really contributed to this thread. Fantastic race by Mo; and Adam Gemili was great in his Semi but can he repeat that to medal?

Re: Your question:

All 2011 outdoor World champions and 2012 Diamond League champions receive wild card status and are exempt from the international qualifying standards, although they still may have to meet conditions set by their host countries. If the defending World champion and the reigning Diamond League champion in the same event are from the same country, only one can receive the wild card.

As Greg Rutherford is defending 2012 Olympic Champion (and not 2011 WC Dwight Phillips (USA) or 2012 DL winner Aleksandr Menkov (RUS)) then he was not automatically eligible for a wild card status. So as no British Long Jumper achieved the A qualifying standard then Team GB could only select one athlete.

So Paula Radcliffe was correct, and Denise Lewis and Michael Johnson were not.

Come the 2016 Rio Olympics providing Greg Rutherford achieves the B standard he should automatically be allowed to defend his title (unless Team GB invoke so internal rule not to allow him to compete). So in the identical circumstances as of now both Greg and Chris Tomlinson would be able to compete at the Olympics which was not the case with these World Championships.

Hence, why I think Denise & Michael Johnson got confused.

Thanks for the wild card explanation. I was wondering why some countries had 4 athletes in certain events when they didn't have the world champion in their team. I hadn't realised they were giving out wild cards for the Diamond League now.

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Well done to the Somali athlete.

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Aug 16, 2013 21:39:58 GMT 1 @swanseajack97 said:

Well done to the Somali athlete.

Country of birth is not the sole criteria for determining someone's nationality.

[raliverpool]

Aug 16, 2013 21:39:58 GMT 1 @swanseajack97 said:

Well done to the Somali athlete.

I could get very angry at this as I do when I see similar troll nonsense posted on BBC website regarding British Sports Stars.

In case you are not aware Mo Farah is the son of an Englishman who was born in England who moved to Hounslow, London aged 8.

Thank goodness he turned down signing for Arsenal FC as a junior where he was spotted as a hugely effective right-winger.

PS. Using your (il)logic the likes of Cardiff & Swansea should be kicked out of the English Football League structure as they are Welsh.

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Bronze in the women's 110m hurdles!

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Rambo winning the 100m hurdles was supreme. She gave them 2-3m start and still won. I think she'll break the world record as long as she stays fit and healthy.

Respect to Bolt jogging the last 10m and still smoking the opposition although Warren Weir ran out of his skin to get silver.

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A bit annoyed there's no red button repeat tonight seeing as I was at the footy this afternoon.

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Very solid race by the women's sprint relay team to reach the final. Outside medal chance, perhaps if they can nail it in the final.

Can the men get the baton round?

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Yes they can! Impressive race and they beat Jamaica (without Bolt). In Lane 1 as well.

[rubcale]

Thanks for explanation re. qualification Raliverpool - it's all very complicated.

Lewis and Johnson were simply wrong about Rutherford and Tomlinson.

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Even with Perry Shakes-Drayton the British 4x400m women wouldn't have won the silver medal.

What might have been interesting would have been her participation and the Jamaicans not disqualified - we got lucky there.

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4th for the GB women. Good run but just not quite enough speed in the squad.

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Men disqualified

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Why were the men disqualified in the 100m relay?

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Yeah, wasn't a surprise after seeing the replays. The USA are very lucky if they haven't been DQ'd as well.

Overall, a decent championships for GB. One or two more medals would've been nice but it was good to see some up and coming athletes making finals and performing well. I think the future's looking pretty bright.

A big chance for some of those young athletes to go to a championships and challenge for medals next year with the Europeans and Commonwealths. With nothing else on, I'd expect us to send a full-strength team to the Euros. In 2010, we won 19 medals with 6 golds so I would expect a similar return next year.

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On the whole reasonably successful although they did fall short of their medal target and I don't go for all this guff about it being a transitional year and the number of injuries.

It's a transitional year for EVERY country and any athlete throughout the world can get injured - it's part of the sport - so it will even out throughout the nations.

TBH I can't really get bothered about a team with Dwayne Chambers in it losing out on a medal. The rules are there before the event and the British team DID transgress them - tough.

What I am ripping about is the fact that the Americans weren't disqualified also. The runner definitely had both feet over the line and that's against the rule.

Seems it's one rule for some..................

Thanks for organising the thread mrh.

The second post was my Bible! I used it to know what was coming up each day.

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Aug 18, 2013 16:45:44 GMT 1 madmurray said:

Why were the men disqualified in the 100m relay?

When passing the baton, the picker upper hadn't control of it before leaving the designated area, but hey at least we didn't drop it!
Shame in the ladies as well, 4th was good, but the last lass was caught in the semis and the final, then again we lost Onuora

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Thanks rub and to everyone who contributed. Glad the thread was of some use.


Andy - I felt really sorry for Hayley Jones after the relay. She couldn't have done anymore - bar race on rollerblades - the other teams just had much faster runners. It shows how well drilled the GB girls were - all decent sprinters but none of them world class - yet they came within a whisker of a bronze or even silver medal.

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BREAKING NEWS!! France disqualified from the women's relay and GB promoted to 3rd!!

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Aug 18, 2013 18:47:29 GMT 1 Panda said:

BREAKING NEWS!! France disqualified from the women's relay and GB promoted to 3rd!!

Fantastic news - you win some, you lose some.

I wonder what went on there - the British team had initially ut a protest in but it was rejected. I wonder was it against the same country.

Really odd since the medals have already been presented.