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Post by Laurence on May 1, 2006 22:13:04 GMT 1
Look at the recent one, we have a kind of indie no.1 Gnarls Barkley (it's a crossover classic). Then Raconteurs at 4, Dirty Pretty Things at 5, Snow Patrol at 7 and then the Kooks at 10. You could also at a push call the number 9, Mary J Blige indieish.
Pretty impressive - but how long lasting will this be. Do you think that the music will grow further in popularity or not?
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Post by dandyhighwayman on May 1, 2006 22:36:19 GMT 1
YES.
It's 2006 so it will increase in popularity until about 2008 when a form of pop music will come back with avengence.
Happens EVERY decade between ###5 and ###8 with the chosen version of rock/indie of the time.
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Post by Laurence on May 1, 2006 22:54:52 GMT 1
You should work in the music biz with your psychic knowledge but yep I get your point.
In a way I quite miss the poptastic years of the late 90s before it became all that reality sh*t.
I must admit I'm a bit worried about the quality of the music now - there's so many clone bands. The Feeling are a clone of Keane. Athlete and Embrace cone Coldplay etc...
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Post by Robin on May 1, 2006 23:22:16 GMT 1
I miss pop too. What we had in the 90s was great, a good balance of pop, indie and dance, which isn't really in evidence now.
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Post by greendemon on May 2, 2006 0:02:24 GMT 1
i miss the nice mixture of the 90s, too... sadly it's just been taken over by urban music, which is just pure sleaze and nastiness
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Post by shrubbery on May 2, 2006 0:33:05 GMT 1
I must admit I'm a bit worried about the quality of the music now - there's so many clone bands. The Feeling are a clone of Keane. Athlete and Embrace cone Coldplay etc... the feeling may be similar to keane but you can't say they clone them - they have a rhythm, lead and bass guitar which keane dont. athlete took coldplay and developed their style into something more indie-esque. embrace however DID clone coldplay. yes thats right, they jumped in that time machine of theirs, discovered coldplay and copied their style. #banghead#
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Post by Admin on May 2, 2006 8:28:11 GMT 1
I'll echo that, embrace predate coldplay!
Athlete sounded totally diff to coldplay as well in their earlier style, I still dont hear it imo on their album, their music is more laid back than coldplay.
You will always get some clone bands, but it's more a case of the record companies see a bands success and try and find one similar to rake in the cash, although most of them fail badly, Menswear anyone?
I think pop took a hammering from the boy/girl bands being rolled out on a production line? It will be back I'm sure, or maybe reality shows have taken over and so the ballad wins over pop now? Dance is doing ok, and the rap/urban stuff is too pre dominant imo.
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Post by greendemon on May 2, 2006 12:57:22 GMT 1
embrace were good in the 90s - all you good good people, come back to what you know, etc.
then they died.
then they randomly decided it would be a good idea to come back to life and try and sound like coldplay. which they do. if you doubt this, just remember who wrote "gravity"...
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on May 2, 2006 13:10:43 GMT 1
the feeling sound nothing like keane other than they have a piano/keyboard player since when was that a crime to have a bit of piano... Embrace have changed there sound to jump on the coldplay band wagon tho, i wudnt call them a clone tho as they pre-date coldplay... and since when was pop so individual arnt they all clones? erm busted, son of dork, mcfly steps, scooch, B*witched and all the other cheese pop britney spears, cristina aguilera, hillary duff all the other blond good looking, not quite talented in any other way solo singers if you cant remember scooch, heres a pic lol
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Post by Laurence on May 2, 2006 13:19:26 GMT 1
I'll echo that, embrace predate coldplay! Of course they do but I meant recent Embrace...
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Post by IndiElectronica on May 2, 2006 14:27:43 GMT 1
Coldplay/Athlete/Embrace/Snow Patrol etc - are Pop from former Indie bands. While even I still lump them with the indie tag, I hate it when others do it without understanding it's not true indie... These kind of bands are marketing to the mass market, not to indie fans - and their bland music prooves it.
VERY rarely does a true indie band do very well in the charts. The average person doesn't want interesting music, just something that they can hear on the radio and hum along to... The 'true' indie bands that do do well in the chargts are still typically ALL the indie fans uniting behind a group/album. How often do you go to someones house and look at their 100 or so cd's, of which 90 are awful crap stuff and you pick out 10 that are decent and those are inevitably the ones they don't like much as they liked one of their songs on the radio?!
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Post by RedFox on May 2, 2006 19:33:31 GMT 1
Well I love Coldplay, Embrace, Keane AND Athlete - but I don't think they've copied each other. They all make a similar kind of music, but IMO they all have their own distinctive styles that differentiate them from each other. Snow Patrol I see as more rock than that lot, admittedly 'Run' got them a lot of Coldplay comparisans, but have a listen to 'Ways & Means' or 'Spitting Games'!!! Chris Martin said a while ago that he thought it was funny that Coldplay used to get accused of copying other people, now everybody's supposedly copying them! He said it was silly because he didn't invent the piano. The reason why pop music is not doing so well right now is, I think, because a lot of it is absolute drivel at the moment. Westlife have lasted unfortunately because they've found a new market in the blue rinse brigade. For ages record labels thought they could make a boy/girl band and if they threw money at them, they'd get #1s... I think they're realising that that's not true. Maybe if they make more effort, pop will be big again?
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Post by dandyhighwayman on May 2, 2006 20:08:09 GMT 1
i miss the nice mixture of the 90s, too... sadly it's just been taken over by urban music, which is just pure sleaze and nastiness I agree... the urban music scene at the moment is awful, anything with a rapper or slutty undertones is massive. Ne*Yo's #1 was the latest in a long line of non-descript slushy R&B ballads that plague the charts. The 80s Cure/NewOrder/Talking Heads revival is this decade's Brit Pop in my opinion with Killers, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Kaiser Chiefs etc amongst countless better but less known groups. The Bravery unfortunately turned out to be this decade's Shed 7...
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Post by Maximo Mark on May 2, 2006 20:21:25 GMT 1
There is a lot of very good rap and urban around at the moment. It's just that about 95% of it isn't the US inspired sh*te that get lots of radio/tv play
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Post by Maximo Mark on May 2, 2006 20:22:29 GMT 1
i miss the nice mixture of the 90s, too... sadly it's just been taken over by urban music, which is just pure sleaze and nastiness I agree... the urban music scene at the moment is awful, anything with a rapper or slutty undertones is massive. Ne*Yo's #1 was the latest in a long line of non-descript slushy R&B ballads that plague the charts. The 80s Cure/NewOrder/Talking Heads revival is this decade's Brit Pop in my opinion with Killers, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Kaiser Chiefs etc amongst countless better but less known groups. The Bravery unfortunately turned out to be this decade's Shed 7... I can see why. I liked Shed 7 a lot more than BP bands that made it and like The Bravery a lot more than bands that are making it now!
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Post by IndiElectronica on May 2, 2006 23:11:19 GMT 1
bravery are crap! one decent tune is all and more attitude than oasis!
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Post by greendemon on May 3, 2006 11:22:36 GMT 1
maybe it's just because i've only heard the bravery's singles, but i can't say i was ever tempted by their album when the singles sound IDENTICAL to killers songs... that said, the killers tweaked a smiths bassline and used it for "jenny was a friend of mine", so i guess it all evens out
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Post by Laurence on May 3, 2006 17:08:26 GMT 1
Shed 7 were an excellent band. A bit like James, never trendy but continued to sell well and had some darn fine songs - Chasing Rainbows, Heroes, Disco Down and She Left Me on Friday I like in particular. They still tour live and are well worth catching. +
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on May 3, 2006 18:06:54 GMT 1
i prefer getting better and going for gold
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Post by space on May 4, 2006 11:54:30 GMT 1
2006 is a good but year for indie bands/artists in the charts but not a great year...i d like to see these indiw artists higher...at least at number 2...like all the great acts of the 90s...
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