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Post by Paddy on Aug 11, 2009 22:48:55 GMT 1
ROUND 1:
Accrington Stanley 2-1 Walsall R
Barnet 0-2 Watford R
After Extra Time
Brentford 0-1 Bristol City R
Bristol Rovers 2-1 Aldershot R
Bury 0-2 West Brom R
Cardiff 3-1 Dag & Red R
Carlisle 1-0 Oldham R
Cheltenham 1-2 Southend R
Colchester 1-2 Leyton Orient R
Crewe 1-2 Blackpool R
Crystal Palace 2-1 Torquay R
Exeter 0-5 QPR R
Gillingham 2-1 Plymouth R
Hereford 1-0 Charlton R
After Extra Time
Huddersfield 3-1 Stockport R
Lincoln City 0-1 Barnsley R
Millwall 4-0 Bournemouth R
MK Dons 1-4 Swindon R
Notts County 0-1 Doncaster R
Preston 5-1 Morecambe R
Reading 5-1 Burton Albion R
Rotherham 2-1 Derby R
Scunthorpe 2-1 Chesterfield R
Sheff Utd 1-2 Port Vale R
Sheff Wed 3-0 Rochdale R
Shrewsbury 3-3 Ipswich R
Ipswich win 4-2 on penalties
Southampton 2-0 Northampton R
Swansea 3-0 Brighton R
Tranmere 4-0 Grimsby R
Wycombe 0-4 Peterborough R
Yeovil 0-4 Norwich R
Believe these are correct scorelines.
Ipswich yet again make a mountain out of a mole hill, and Norwich get a comfy win.
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Post by frag on Aug 12, 2009 9:57:55 GMT 1
Ipswich played a reserve team. I was born in Shrewsbury, so was hoping they'd pull through... Brighton (closest league team to where I grew up) also got knocked out  |
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Post by Shireblogger on Aug 12, 2009 10:11:50 GMT 1
A few surprises in there. Defeats for Sheffield United, Derby and Notts County stand out.
Good recoveries by Norwich and Swindon, after their stuffing on Saturday.
Saints through comfortably against a team from the lower division, with a goal from our new striker - Rickie Lambert. I remain hopeful that we are too good to get relegated again.
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Post by frag on Aug 12, 2009 10:41:38 GMT 1
Wasn't it Lambert who scored loads of goals for Bristol Rovers?
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Post by Robin on Aug 12, 2009 11:36:22 GMT 1
A few surprises in there. Defeats for Sheffield United, Derby and Notts County stand out. Notts didn't field their strongest team, a few key players like Lee Hughes were only on the bench |
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Post by Shireblogger on Aug 12, 2009 11:38:59 GMT 1
Wasn't it Lambert who scored loads of goals for Bristol Rovers? Yes. |
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Post by Shireblogger on Aug 12, 2009 11:42:04 GMT 1
A few surprises in there. Defeats for Sheffield United, Derby and Notts County stand out. Notts didn't field their strongest team, a few key players like Lee Hughes were only on the bench The credibility of this competition has to be in serious doubt if a Fourth Division team starts fielding its reserves. Or do Notts already think they're so good, their reserves can beat a team from two divisions higher ? |
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Post by Robin on Aug 12, 2009 11:44:31 GMT 1
No, I wouldn't say we fielded our reserves, just didn't play a full strength team. In fairness though, neither did Doncaster, or at least Heffernan wasn't playing. Anyway, a good cup run isn't that important, we really do need to focus all our energies on a promotion campaign.
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Post by Shireblogger on Aug 12, 2009 11:53:32 GMT 1
I've always found the "focus on the league" attitude to be strange. (And I'm certainly not singling out Notts County here).
Not only does a Cup run bring in some cash (and win bonuses), but it is also great for player confidence, team dynamics & understanding, and fan morale (and hence future attendances). Also, new formations / tactics and new players can be tried out, without risk. All of these things, especially player self-belief, bring benefits to league performance. Cup runs and promotion coincide far more often than Cup runs and relegation.
Only towards the end of a gruelling season, when pitches are heavy with mud, and there is a fixture backlog because of postponements, does it make sense to focus on league matches. Today's super-fit professionals are easily capable of playing 180 minutes a week in August, September and October without any detrimental impact.
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Post by Robin on Aug 12, 2009 12:02:05 GMT 1
Yeah I agree with many of your points regarding the positives of a cup run, and in any other season I would agree with the benefits completely. But this season in particular Notts do not need the cash associated with a cup run and the possibility of injury to key players is not worth the risk! Having said that I would like a good FA Cup run as for the past two seasons we have been knocked out by non-league opposition!
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Post by Tom on Aug 13, 2009 11:11:14 GMT 1
Completely agree with robins stance on this, would have said exactly the same a few yrs ago! A lot of reading fans agree with that viewpoint shireblogger regarding our fa cup teams. I fully understand the reasons, and i do think getting knocked out of the fa cup in 2007 affected our league form, but generally i havent had much of a problem with Reading fielding weakened teams in the cups. As far as the carling cup is concerned our league form has never been affected when weve gone out early! Quite the opposite in fact, we got to the QF in 98, losing to boro, and we got relegated that season..
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Post by Tom on Aug 13, 2009 11:53:13 GMT 1
As for our 5-1 win the other night, good result and most of our goals were impressive. 9 changes, and although that was partly enforced with players away, (doubt Mooney or Bignall will start in any other competition this season), most of them prob would have played anyway. Rodgers stated that although he will pick the strongest team in the league and fa cup the carling cup gives him the opportunity to look at other players. With Harper and Marek back from injury and our 2m signing Matt Mills making his debut alongside other fringe/reserve players it was a pretty strong team anyway. Oh, and the attendance was under 6000!
Next up is Barnsley at home. I'd expect a win in the league but its difficut to say with a weakened team.
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Post by Panda on Aug 25, 2009 18:30:30 GMT 1
Tonight it's the big one!
Forest v Boro!
OK, I'm trying hard to get excited about the Carling Cup this early in the season but I don't think anyone's arsed, are they? In fact, I don't think anyone cares about it until their team gets to the quarter-finals...
For what it's worth, Boro have been knocked out by the eventual winners in each of the last 2 seasons.
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Post by Maximo Mark on Aug 25, 2009 20:28:28 GMT 1
If we get a goal past you (who've not conceded yet) I'll be happy enough. It's about time our wealth of attacking talent actually started hitting the back of the net! Derby on Saturday, need to be on top form for that!
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Post by Panda on Aug 25, 2009 20:32:22 GMT 1
It's also worth mentioning that the last time Boro were outside the top flight, they got to the final...
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Post by Maximo Mark on Aug 25, 2009 20:33:58 GMT 1
And you've just gone 1-0 up. It's the man Johnson again...
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Post by Panda on Aug 25, 2009 20:36:02 GMT 1
I think he likes the Championship...
I'm surprised how few changes Southgate made for tonight. Just the 3, with both full-backs changed, plus Aliadiere replacing Lita up front. I thought Steele might've got a game in goal...
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Post by Panda on Aug 25, 2009 22:25:26 GMT 1
Ah well... Well played Forest. It sounded like Boro weren't interested anymore once it went to extra time. FOREST TO WIN THE CUP!  |
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Post by Panda on Aug 25, 2009 22:35:43 GMT 1
More worrying is what happened at Upton Park tonight...
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Post by o on Aug 26, 2009 7:54:36 GMT 1
Having just watched it, where on earth were the police? West Ham v Milwall and not a policeman in sight, it was trouble waiting to happen! West Ham booted out, or play the next home game behind closed doors and hurt them with revenue loss?
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