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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Aug 16, 2014 22:21:26 GMT 1
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Post by o on Aug 22, 2014 20:54:57 GMT 1
So what do we make of all the Malky Mackay stuff going on?
In other news, my son Sam had a letter through the post for a trial with West Riding County Football Association! Wow, assume his club have recommended him after he won Player of the season last year. It seems to be for U16s though and he's U15s this season, so I dont expect him to make the cut out of the 80 that go, but great experience for him to learn from better coaches and players.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Aug 22, 2014 21:49:30 GMT 1
Im not sure, 3 silly texts from 10,000 seems a bit harsh to me. Whilst the content is damning I can't sit here and say I havent said something stupid in a private conversation. But then he is in a position of responsibility and if his judgement is questionable then he shouldn't be in a position of power that could negatively impact ethnic minorities or homosexuals for example. The media love a good witch hunt wether he deserves it or not its a bit dissapointing
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Post by suedehead on Aug 23, 2014 1:11:41 GMT 1
I've seen half a dozen texts which he is alleged to have sent. All of them are very offensive. The League Managers Association, in their initial statement which they have since retracted, only referred to two texts which they described as "disrespectful of other cultures" but said they were "friendly text message banter". Perhaps they could explain which two texts they were referring to and how they were "friendly". Then they could explain how the other texts were not offensive.
In common with many football supporters, I felt Mackay had been treated very harshly when he was sacked. It now looks like I was wrong.
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Post by Panda on Aug 23, 2014 13:39:12 GMT 1
Mackay: Career over (in this country at least - might find work in lower divisions in Italy or Spain, where such ideology is tolerated)
LMA: Not fit for purpose. It's supposed to protect managers against the high turnover of sackings that we have in the game, not defend them to the hilt when they do something ridiculously offensive and stupid.
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Post by o on Aug 23, 2014 13:52:28 GMT 1
How have these texts come to light though, as he sent them to the other bloke who was sacked at Cardiff as well? The way they were suing Tan at Cardiff and then that ended and thet apologised suggests he had something over them? These texts? What I dont understand is if you say the things he said in the three texts, you'd say it in all of them when you are referring to black, jewish, or gay people?
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Aug 23, 2014 15:05:59 GMT 1
I think he was being specifically derogatory to a certain agent and ref? he may have been drinking and was under pressure and then an agent tries to rob him blind and he makes a money grabbing jew comment in private to a mate, whilst it is wrong I don't condemn him to death!
I think moody was being investigated and they were allowed to go through his texts and that's when mackays comments came to light, I might be mistaken
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Post by Tom on Aug 27, 2014 10:16:01 GMT 1
And the Daggers won on penalties having only had the lead for a few minutes Brentford won on penalties. Jamie Cureton scored for Dagenham. I remember seeing him score a consolation goal for Norwich against Arsenal in 1995! Always good to see a Reading legend like Cureton score Famously scored 4 goals in a 6-0 win for Bristol Rovers (with Jason Roberts scoring the other 2) in 1999 that is the equal biggest win seen at the stadium by any team (and for 8 years it was the outright winner). I was a bit miffed when we conceded a late consolation whilst 7-0 up v Bolton in January, just when we were about to break the record having equalled it 3 times before...(the others being 6-0 v West Ham which I was at, a 6-0 v Sheffield Wednesday when it seemed as though we stopped playing for the last 20-30 mins, and a 6-0 v Peterborough which Gary Johnson their then manager said could have been double figures). I think we're doomed not to break it now! Anyway, he was at the celebrations at the end of the "106" season and said he regretted leaving Reading (in 2003 for first team football). But tbf to him, he wasn't to know that just a few months later Pardew was going to go to West Ham. He would have thrived in a 4-4-2 under Coppell imo (in our first season in the Champ, 2002-03, Pardew generally played 4-5-1 with Forster as lone striker so Cureton didn't play much), especially when for the next 2 seasons, more so the 2nd one, we were heavily reliant on Kitson and missed him when he was injured.
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Post by Tom on Aug 27, 2014 10:46:27 GMT 1
On another note, one for Robbie and greendemon last night went to Gillingham 0-1 Newcastle
Wasn't sure last night whether Newcastle actually deserved to win but on reflection I think they did just about enough, a professional performance by them. Predicted a narrow Newcastle win, thought 2-1 having initially gone for 1-0, so the result was no surprise. Neither was the scorer, Mr O.G is averaging more than a goal every other game (think it was 3 in 5 before last night) for Gillingham this season. The timing of the goal was unfortunate though, up until then Newcastle hadn't really looked like scoring and it looked like a 0-0, apart from one quick break where they just missed. For the next 40 mins they largely controlled it though and also hit the bar in the 2nd half (which I missed ). When Gills brought on a couple of subs, German and Norris it gave them more energy and Norris forced an impressive save from Krul (the only time he was tested) after a great run. I think they'll be a bit frustrated they didn't at least force extra-time, if they'd pressed Newcastle more they may have got a goal in the last quarter. Newcastle looked a bit panicky on the odd occasion they did.
We were sitting only a few rows back from the Gillingham dugout but the Newcastle one wasn't far away. It was interesting to hear the managers! Pardew was constantly giving out instructions, in particular to the left-back Haidara telling him when to go and when to stay back in the first half down our side. Peter Taylor generally stood arms folded apart from the odd moment when he would vent his anger towards someone. Andy Hessenthaler (who has seemingly had every role at the club, and more, now back as assistant manager) offered encouragement in the 2nd half, first half didn't say much apart from be vocal towards one particular player who I then realised was his son Jake! (who is someone with the potential to play higher). Liked the look of the Newcastle right-back Janmaat down our side second half, composed on the ball and looked to link up with the striker. His experience showed.
Not a bad game, although all that anyone was talking about afterwards was the MK Dons-Man Utd score! Having expected a 0-0 draw and extra-time in the Scunthorpe-Reading tie I was pretty pleased with the 1-0 win. No doubt we'll get MK Dons away now...
Not sure what the exact attendance was, but it was a sell-out in the home ends, and there didn't look to be too many empty seats in the away end either, definitely the biggest crowd seen at Priestfield for years.
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Post by rewardman on Aug 27, 2014 15:59:05 GMT 1
Major embarrassment for Van Gaal and Man U.
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Post by suedehead on Aug 27, 2014 16:16:04 GMT 1
Neil Warnock has returned to Crystal Palace. How many months of his whingeing on MOTD will we have to endure before he is sacked?
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Aug 27, 2014 17:51:38 GMT 1
Early christmas present hopefully
As for man u and van gaal, I can't believe he came out after the game and basically said the board has cost them points and a cup by not getting the players he wanted before the season started
Considering they have spent more than anyone else in the league in the last 6 month its hilarious
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Post by Robbie on Aug 27, 2014 19:27:29 GMT 1
On another note, one for Robbie and greendemon last night went to Gillingham 0-1 Newcastle
Wasn't sure last night whether Newcastle actually deserved to win but on reflection I think they did just about enough, a professional performance by them. Predicted a narrow Newcastle win, thought 2-1 having initially gone for 1-0, so the result was no surprise. Neither was the scorer, Mr O.G is averaging more than a goal every other game (think it was 3 in 5 before last night) for Gillingham this season. The timing of the goal was unfortunate though, up until then Newcastle hadn't really looked like scoring and it looked like a 0-0, apart from one quick break where they just missed. For the next 40 mins they largely controlled it though and also hit the bar in the 2nd half (which I missed ). When Gills brought on a couple of subs, German and Norris it gave them more energy and Norris forced an impressive save from Krul (the only time he was tested) after a great run. I think they'll be a bit frustrated they didn't at least force extra-time, if they'd pressed Newcastle more they may have got a goal in the last quarter. Newcastle looked a bit panicky on the odd occasion they did.
We were sitting only a few rows back from the Gillingham dugout but the Newcastle one wasn't far away. It was interesting to hear the managers! Pardew was constantly giving out instructions, in particular to the left-back Haidara telling him when to go and when to stay back in the first half down our side. Peter Taylor generally stood arms folded apart from the odd moment when he would vent his anger towards someone. Andy Hessenthaler (who has seemingly had every role at the club, and more, now back as assistant manager) offered encouragement in the 2nd half, first half didn't say much apart from be vocal towards one particular player who I then realised was his son Jake! (who is someone with the potential to play higher). Liked the look of the Newcastle right-back Janmaat down our side second half, composed on the ball and looked to link up with the striker. His experience showed.
Not a bad game, although all that anyone was talking about afterwards was the MK Dons-Man Utd score! Having expected a 0-0 draw and extra-time in the Scunthorpe-Reading tie I was pretty pleased with the 1-0 win. No doubt we'll get MK Dons away now...
Not sure what the exact attendance was, but it was a sell-out in the home ends, and there didn't look to be too many empty seats in the away end either, definitely the biggest crowd seen at Priestfield for years.
I'm glad Gillingham scored for us as we can't seem to manage it ourselves - none of our players have actually scored a goal since the season started! I saw very brief highlights (of about one minute) of the match on the local news this evening. As you said both teams had a chance apiece to score in the second half. The crowd was apparently just over 10,000 but it looks like Gillingham haven't, for whatever reason, officially announced it as the actual attendance hasn't appeared anywhere - in the papers, on the BBC website and on both the Newcastle and Gillingham official websites.
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Post by rewardman on Aug 28, 2014 0:29:58 GMT 1
Arsenal weren't very good. I'd say they were a tad lucky to get through against Besiktas who were denied one stonewall penalty and possibly a second.
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Post by frag on Aug 28, 2014 9:09:27 GMT 1
Arsenal weren't very good. I'd say they were a tad lucky to get through against Besiktas who were denied one stonewall penalty and possibly a second. I respectfully disagree. We played reasonably well, scored once, could have had a few more, and defended pretty well (although there were more scares than I'd like) after Debuchy was wrongly sent off - our fourth red card in five CL games, and only one of those (Szczęsny vs Bayern) was justified. It was probably our best performance since the charity shield, although there's not much competition there. We've been winning/drawing ugly so far this season; it's good to see that we can do that, but I'd like to see a somewhat better performance at Leicester on Sunday* As for the penalty appeals, these were two decisions the referee actually got correct. For the first (Debuchy), it looks like it might have been a foul, but Mertesacker was clearly fouled by Ba in the build-up, so whether Debuchy fouled is moot. For the second, Wilshere and Petremek fell over themselves simultaneously. See for yourself: vine.co/v/Mlj7O5Pzabw. * - well, I'll probably see it on Monday as Sunday's my wedding anniversary...
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Post by Tom on Aug 28, 2014 13:32:33 GMT 1
On another note, one for Robbie and greendemon last night went to Gillingham 0-1 Newcastle
Wasn't sure last night whether Newcastle actually deserved to win but on reflection I think they did just about enough, a professional performance by them. Predicted a narrow Newcastle win, thought 2-1 having initially gone for 1-0, so the result was no surprise. Neither was the scorer, Mr O.G is averaging more than a goal every other game (think it was 3 in 5 before last night) for Gillingham this season. The timing of the goal was unfortunate though, up until then Newcastle hadn't really looked like scoring and it looked like a 0-0, apart from one quick break where they just missed. For the next 40 mins they largely controlled it though and also hit the bar in the 2nd half (which I missed ). When Gills brought on a couple of subs, German and Norris it gave them more energy and Norris forced an impressive save from Krul (the only time he was tested) after a great run. I think they'll be a bit frustrated they didn't at least force extra-time, if they'd pressed Newcastle more they may have got a goal in the last quarter. Newcastle looked a bit panicky on the odd occasion they did.
We were sitting only a few rows back from the Gillingham dugout but the Newcastle one wasn't far away. It was interesting to hear the managers! Pardew was constantly giving out instructions, in particular to the left-back Haidara telling him when to go and when to stay back in the first half down our side. Peter Taylor generally stood arms folded apart from the odd moment when he would vent his anger towards someone. Andy Hessenthaler (who has seemingly had every role at the club, and more, now back as assistant manager) offered encouragement in the 2nd half, first half didn't say much apart from be vocal towards one particular player who I then realised was his son Jake! (who is someone with the potential to play higher). Liked the look of the Newcastle right-back Janmaat down our side second half, composed on the ball and looked to link up with the striker. His experience showed.
Not a bad game, although all that anyone was talking about afterwards was the MK Dons-Man Utd score! Having expected a 0-0 draw and extra-time in the Scunthorpe-Reading tie I was pretty pleased with the 1-0 win. No doubt we'll get MK Dons away now...
Not sure what the exact attendance was, but it was a sell-out in the home ends, and there didn't look to be too many empty seats in the away end either, definitely the biggest crowd seen at Priestfield for years.
I'm glad Gillingham scored for us as we can't seem to manage it ourselves - none of our players have actually scored a goal since the season started! I saw very brief highlights (of about one minute) of the match on the local news this evening. As you said both teams had a chance apiece to score in the second half. The crowd was apparently just over 10,000 but it looks like Gillingham haven't, for whatever reason, officially announced it as the actual attendance hasn't appeared anywhere - in the papers, on the BBC website and on both the Newcastle and Gillingham official websites.BIB - That is odd, i noticed it wasn't on the BBC site. I thought the crowd must have been about 10k as the capacity is 11,582 according to wiki and the only noticeable gaps were in the away end. What is interesting is that we had to return 4 tickets after the online booking system crashed a couple of times and i'm wondering if that played a part, and Gillingham weren't confident enough of the actual attendance to publish it.
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Post by Robbie on Aug 28, 2014 15:02:13 GMT 1
I'm glad Gillingham scored for us as we can't seem to manage it ourselves - none of our players have actually scored a goal since the season started! I saw very brief highlights (of about one minute) of the match on the local news this evening. As you said both teams had a chance apiece to score in the second half. The crowd was apparently just over 10,000 but it looks like Gillingham haven't, for whatever reason, officially announced it as the actual attendance hasn't appeared anywhere - in the papers, on the BBC website and on both the Newcastle and Gillingham official websites.BIB - That is odd, i noticed it wasn't on the BBC site. I thought the crowd must have been about 10k as the capacity is 11,582 according to wiki and the only noticeable gaps were in the away end. What is interesting is that we had to return 4 tickets after the online booking system crashed a couple of times and i'm wondering if that played a part, and Gillingham weren't confident enough of the actual attendance to publish it. The 10,000 figure was quoted in the match report by The Chronicle, the local evening paper for the Newcastle area. It's the only figure I've seen posted anywhere... www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/lee-ryders-big-match-verdict-7676859Usually The Chronicle will give the actual attendance so I assume the writer was given a rounded figure by Gillingham officials during the match at some point. There's still no official attendance figure showing on the website of either club.
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Post by rewardman on Aug 29, 2014 0:23:00 GMT 1
Arsenal weren't very good. I'd say they were a tad lucky to get through against Besiktas who were denied one stonewall penalty and possibly a second. I respectfully disagree. We played reasonably well, scored once, could have had a few more, and defended pretty well (although there were more scares than I'd like) after Debuchy was wrongly sent off - our fourth red card in five CL games, and only one of those (Szczęsny vs Bayern) was justified. It was probably our best performance since the charity shield, although there's not much competition there. We've been winning/drawing ugly so far this season; it's good to see that we can do that, but I'd like to see a somewhat better performance at Leicester on Sunday* As for the penalty appeals, these were two decisions the referee actually got correct. For the first (Debuchy), it looks like it might have been a foul, but Mertesacker was clearly fouled by Ba in the build-up, so whether Debuchy fouled is moot. For the second, Wilshere and Petremek fell over themselves simultaneously. See for yourself: vine.co/v/Mlj7O5Pzabw. * - well, I'll probably see it on Monday as Sunday's my wedding anniversary... We'll have to agree to disagree then.
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Post by o on Aug 29, 2014 11:00:35 GMT 1
Leeds or rather Cellini sack manager, sorry coach in non shocker, who wants the job for the next 5 games?
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Aug 29, 2014 13:20:22 GMT 1
I will tke it, nice work if you can get it, magage 5 games and take 3 years pay
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