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Post by Roo. on Jan 13, 2022 16:59:53 GMT 1
All TBC depending on who wins and what their plans are, but with an early and slightly shorter HF10 we might have time for HF11 in 2022 as well... We've definitely slowed down since the first few: HF1 Round 1 started on 22nd January 2017 HF2 Round 1 started on 28th May 2017 HF3 Round 1 started on 08th September 2017 HF4 Round 1 started on 13th January 2018 Then we started getting longer six month gaps, but the first 4 games all started within one year!
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Post by greendemon on Jan 13, 2022 17:01:43 GMT 1
that seems crazy now! Though I guess the first few contests were smaller. Even 16 is quite a lot of participants really.
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Post by Roo. on Jan 13, 2022 17:06:33 GMT 1
You can tell I'm impatiently waiting for 5pm and have nothing better to do HF1 had 14 acts HF2 had 16 HF3 had 16 HF4 had 17 So we're actually just back to normal after some supersize editions!
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Post by Smurfie on Jan 13, 2022 17:10:41 GMT 1
All TBC depending on who wins and what their plans are, but with an early and slightly shorter HF10 we might have time for HF11 in 2022 as well... Exactly what I was thinking/hoping, hence the early start too.
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Post by greendemon on Jan 13, 2022 17:11:36 GMT 1
I do like having the contests more infrequently, it does make them more exciting (but also increases the pressure!)
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 13, 2022 17:17:53 GMT 1
You can tell I'm impatiently waiting for 5pm and have nothing better to do HF1 had 14 acts HF2 had 16 HF3 had 16 HF4 had 17 So we're actually just back to normal after some supersize editions! HF5 had a lot of acts (although I didn't participate) but Shireblogger did something early on to have a "bye" round with a big elimination in round 2. I think that's quite a good idea going forward if there are a lot of acts. Tough if you end up being one of those who gets eliminated early, but probably better than the alternative of not allowing people in to start with.
An example of how it can work: You have 20 acts, and the first round 10 go through and 10 into a massive "sing-off" which is a round of 10 and PM scoring (not poll) and the bottom 5 go out - yes tough. Then you're left with 15 and everyone continues.
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Post by greendemon on Jan 13, 2022 17:20:47 GMT 1
I suppose the other thing is we had fewer regular competitions 5 years ago than now...
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Post by Roo. on Jan 13, 2022 17:24:40 GMT 1
Yeah the Idols and Time Machine weren't around then, although Time Machine won't have much left unless we start repeating decades.
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Post by greendemon on Jan 13, 2022 17:25:59 GMT 1
I think we can still do a 60s one but not sure my dream of Classical Music Time Machine has enough support here
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Post by Good Old Days on Jan 13, 2022 17:29:53 GMT 1
What about the special edition or spin-off of Haven Factor ? We talked about it in past.
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Post by Good Old Days on Jan 13, 2022 17:31:05 GMT 1
Yeah the Idols and Time Machine weren't around then, although Time Machine won't have much left unless we start repeating decades. There are not any reasons for repeating decades in Time Machine.
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Post by greendemon on Jan 13, 2022 17:38:41 GMT 1
Yeah the Idols and Time Machine weren't around then, although Time Machine won't have much left unless we start repeating decades. There are not any reasons for repeating decades in Time Machine. Other than the fact that there are literally thousands of amazing songs in each decade covered so far that didn't get an airing in the first contest? (and possibly the fact the 80s one descended into something of a sh!tshow...)
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Post by Shireblogger on Jan 13, 2022 18:00:56 GMT 1
Just putting this out there while we're all talking about it...
I have in mind a tweaked version of Haven Factor called Haven Factor Express. This would have fewer rounds, and be designed for acts which don't have many hit singles. I'm thinking perhaps 8 rounds, with a qualifying rule along the lines of maximum 4 Top 40 hits &/or silver certified tracks. Obviously, this would be an opportunity to win with an act which hasn't been huge. (Yes, and I know a proper Haven Factor has been won by an obscure act already). With just 8 rounds, Haven Factor Express could come and go in two months.
Feel free to comment, and, depending on response, we can see if there is a slot in this year's schedule for it.
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Post by raliverpool on Jan 13, 2022 19:11:45 GMT 1
Another idea which I've had in my head a while is Album Factor.
The idea is everyone nominates which studio album they want to enter. Then the idea is there would be 8 Rounds. So if someone nominated a 12 track album (I thought about have a maximum 15 track album rule; whilst if the concept took off you could have the odd Double Album/CD Full length Factor for longer albums). Then their respective Round Entries would be the 8 tracks they want from the album in the running order they appear on the album (minus the 4 scrubbed out tracks).
To make things interesting, I would not reveal the results until the 8 Rounds had completed.
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Post by Good Old Days on Jan 13, 2022 19:16:52 GMT 1
Another idea which I've had in my head a while is Album Factor. Interesting idea on the paper, but who wants to listen 8 (!!!) songs from any my favourite album.
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Post by Roo. on Jan 13, 2022 19:23:28 GMT 1
Another idea which I've had in my head a while is Album Factor. The idea is everyone nominates which studio album they want to enter. Then the idea is there would be 8 Rounds. So if someone nominated a 12 track album (I thought about have a maximum 15 track album rule; whilst if the concept took off you could have the odd Double Album/CD Full length Factor for longer albums). Then their respective Round Entries would be the 8 tracks they want from the album in the running order they appear on the album (minus the 4 scrubbed out tracks). To make things interesting, I would not reveal the results until the 8 Rounds had completed. I mentioned a contest like this... somewhere (I cannot find the post!) and I think it's an interesting spinoff idea. Mine was more typical HF with albums being eliminated until we reached a final, but I never quite figured out the details properly, but I think this is a good version of it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2022 19:27:39 GMT 1
Album one could cheeky choose greatest hits album choose 8 best song on it
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Post by Whitneyfan on Jan 13, 2022 19:31:45 GMT 1
I like the idea of expanding my album knowledge so I'd be up for that contest.
I'd be up for Shireblogger's idea too. There are always acts that I think I would like to enter in Haven Factor, but don't because I they don't have enough famous songs. (Although Dolly Parton had a lot fewer hits than people realise!)
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 14, 2022 1:48:40 GMT 1
I had an idea for a shorter version but with no eliminations, and each round is a head-to-head so you have to decide which song you're going to play against each artist. Of course you don't know what song they're going to pick against yours.
Voting is done by picking a winner in each head-to-head round.
Something similar was done on buzzjack I think.
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Post by Panda on Jan 14, 2022 2:27:42 GMT 1
So do I but when 99.99% music can qualify for the game, its just not the same. It used to be clear cut in 2008 even maybe even 2012 a band like Wet Leg or Sea Girls would have a top 40 hit and we would exclude them but now almost anything is game. If we bring HIT back we really need a new definition of 'Hidden' Exactly. I'm not sure when the last edition was but the last one I participated in was effectively just another Havenvision, as the indie stipulation had been dropped and, if anything, some of the tracks were less "hidden".
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