The Last Dinner Party - Nothing Matters

[Panda]

These are getting a bit of attention at the moment. They've been playing live for a year or two and have been supporting Florence & The Machine but this is their first single release. Noticed it in a couple of personal charts here and it did very well on mine.

(contains swearing)

[o]

Yeah, really like it after hearing it on 6 Music, nearly started a thread last weekend
One of those songs that after a couple of listens sounds like it's been around for ages.
Start reminds me of Abba, bit in the middle reminds me of Sparks, this is the sort of stuff that should be getting in the charts!

[greendemon]

Yes, I finally heard this a couple of weeks back and it is going to do reasonably well in my next chart as well.

[greendemon]

Another single out today:

[raliverpool]

Yes, Nothing Matters has so far spent 5 weeks on top of my Personal Charts (& might grab a 6th this week), we'll see after I check out the new Friday releases.

[TheThorne]

I dismissed it too quickly as it was so sweary, I tend to do that when I am playing through about 100 songs on friday morning. I have heard it since thought but the radio version.  But yeh potential good band, the main singer is cute, and love their image. the new song is very similiar. Not quite for me yet but I was the same with The Big Moon who took awhile for me to get into.

4.6 million streams that is impressive for a debut single from a UK indie band these days.

[o]

Luckily I heard the first song on the radio, and wondered what was getting beeped
New one sounds good as well, love the guitar play
One to watch!

[Razzle Dazzle]

First song was ok but too sweary and the whole thing gave me the heebie-jeebies

I like the second one though

[Panda]

Another single out this week, "My Lady Of Mercy":

[greendemon]

Love her vocals on this.

[Panda]

Another new song out, this time a ballad.

But I actually came here because today I remembered a video I saw a couple of years ago of Wooze playing a gig in London. It was one of the first post-lockdown gigs and the crowd was really up for it. They were totally into the music and there seemed to be a lot of clothes being discarded. One girl in the crowd was joining in with the fun and the person who shot the video commented that she's now fronting a new band and it turns out it was only bloody Abigail from The Last Dinner Party!

[greendemon]

Just seen their debut album has been announced - 'Prelude to Ecstasy', released on 2nd Feb.

I am still not quite on board the hype train with this band but I'm intrigued enough to check it out.

[o]

Hype train? Is that a bit like haven darlings?

[greendemon]

No; rather than just being a Havenism, it's an actual phrase that is used elsewhere

[Razzle Dazzle]

You know the hype train, it's currently driven by Wet Leg, but it is usually these days a different quirky female fronted band pushed by mainstream radio every 6/12 month. Usually based on less than 4 songs, half of which are meh, usually rightly forgotton about by the 3rd album

[Panda]

Interesting how bands fronted by women get that kind of backlash in a way male-fronted bands never do. There does seem to be a deep-rooted misogyny among a certain proportion of young men, which would explain why Radio X hardly ever put female acts on their daytime playlists, pandering to the same people who get butt-hurt by any kind of success by women and who don't like female comedians because "women aren't funny".


For the record, I think there are more women making interesting music than men right now.

[TheThorne]

To be fair there are a hundred things wrong with Radio X’s playlist

[Panda]

Nov 7, 2023 15:13:48 GMT 1 TheThorne said:

To be fair there are a hundred things wrong with Radio X’s playlist

The daytime playlist is shocking. The same old acts, the same old songs for months on end and barely a woman in sight. But again, that's because they're appealing to a particular type of listener. The evening playlist features much more in terms of variety and new acts.

[Razzle Dazzle]

Nov 7, 2023 14:24:01 GMT 1 Panda said:

Interesting how bands fronted by women get that kind of backlash in a way male-fronted bands never do. There does seem to be a deep-rooted misogyny among a certain proportion of young men, which would explain why Radio X hardly ever put female acts on their daytime playlists, pandering to the same people who get butt-hurt by any kind of success by women and who don't like female comedians because "women aren't funny".


For the record, I think there are more women making interesting music than men right now.

Doesn't it go in cycles though? Male fronted bands suffer backlash too, especially in the post Britpop days when NME attacked band after band with career ending backlash or the landfill indie days where every male fronted band suffered the worst backlash I have ever seen, it wasn't just one band, it was an entire genre targeted and torpedoed, was that all misandry because they were 95% male frontmen? head over to any review site in 2023 and almost everything released in the last few years have scathing reviews in the indie rock sections, male and well actually almost entirely male, I have seen nothing but hype for the last few big female fronted bands, the only criticism i see is when these bands go into the gender fluid, I'm a girl pretending to be a boy, sex is disposable and loveless and men are sh*t, gen X identity politics, crying about their feelings being hurt because they make bad choices, but the 1975 suffer the same way for going down that rabbit hole too, so I wouldn't say it is misogyny because male musicians are hated too by both genders if they make the same kind of "art" that push them same buttons, there are just more women that feel the need to express that side but they aren't being attacked for simply being women, women in metal are hero worshiped almost universally, hundreds of them and bands like CHVRCHES, Black Honey, Eliza and the Delusionals, Hatchie, Sigrid, Muna, Hot Milk who don't base their image, stage presence or lyrics in the same gender political way are well-loved, it is the content that is disliked and your allowed to dislike a bands content. Can you see a single Conservative liking that content? They hate rap too and metal and long hair on men because they are all so out of their world they cant relate so it isn't hating women imo, 60% of the voting public probably have conservative values given they have won pretty much every election since the mid 70s and a lot of the press are Tory too so we are going to hear about it when something becomes popular they don't like.

and The Last Dinner Party were #2 in my personal chart last week so...im just pointing out what the flavour of the month hype train looks like in 2023   3 years ago it was different, 3 years time it will be different again

Is it not also indie snobs being indie snobs? rather than men hating women, it is male indie snobs, hating most things including female indie bands isn't it? The problem of misogyny within music fan bases is incredibly genre specific because pop, metal and proper rock doesn't have the same problems.

It is more complex than everyone's becoming misogynists, what happens when a society becomes too liberal and free in general is when things start to break down because there is no longer 1 right way to do things there are now 9,784,923 ways to do things everyone doubles down on their core beliefs and everyone including the most liberal becomes less tolerant and the females act like feminists in the eyes of men, the men act like misogynists in the eyes of women and the liberal, the liberals become so hell bent on what is right everyone else is wrong and evil and aren't allowed an opinion and society collapses in on itself as everyone sits in their own bubble with their fingers in their ears shouting la-la-la-la and we are seeing that in probably lots of society including music but more worrying is it is so noticeable in general 

[TheThorne]

It is weird as I have loved female fronted indie music since the 80s and this year so many of my favourite albums feature female singer and bands when many female members . Radio X think the only female fronted band since 2005 is Florence & The Machine.

But I do agree on the virtue signalling and pandering just you wait for the next Sound Of list.