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Post by Maximo Mark on Mar 3, 2008 12:44:59 GMT 1
Won: Tottenham - 2 points Liverpool - 4 points Blackburn - 2 points Middlesbrough - 2 points Reading - 2 points Chelsea - 1 point Portsmouth - 2 points Derby - 1 point
Lost: Newcastle - 1 point Man City - 1 point Aston Villa - 1 points Birmingham - 1 point Fulham - 1 point Wigan - 1 point West Ham - 1 point Everton - 3 points Bolton - 1 point Sunderland - 2 points
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Post by Maximo Mark on Mar 3, 2008 12:53:47 GMT 1
1 (1) Arsenal 28 36 65 2 (2) Man Utd 28 43 64 3 (3) Chelsea 27 25 57 4 (4) Everton 28 22 56 5 (6) Aston Villa 28 15 49 6 (5) Liverpool 27 26 46 7 (8) Man City 28 3 46 8 (7) Blackburn 28 3 43 9 (9) Portsmouth 28 9 42 10 (10) West Ham 27 4 41 11 (11) Tottenham 27 4 30 12 (15) Sunderland 28 -20 29 13 (13) Newcastle 28 -23 29 14 (14) Wigan 28 -16 28 15 (16) Birmingham 28 -10 27 16 (12) Middlesbrough 28 -17 27 17 (17) Bolton 28 -14 26 18 (18) Reading 28 -23 23 19 (19) Fulham 28 -23 20 20 (20) Derby 28 -44 9 That's one hell of a gulf between the top and bottom halves...
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Post by frag on Mar 3, 2008 14:44:21 GMT 1
That's one hell of a gulf between the top and bottom halves... Yes, there appear to be four 'classes' in the Prem this year... first - the top 4 (or top 3 by the actual table) then - the rest of the top 10 third class - 11th-19th fourth class - derby (so special, they get a class of their own )
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Post by Tom on Mar 3, 2008 18:50:02 GMT 1
That's one hell of a gulf between the top and bottom halves... Yes, there appear to be four 'classes' in the Prem this year... first - the top 4 (or top 3 by the actual table) then - the rest of the top 10 third class - 11th-19th fourth class - derby (so special, they get a class of their own ) The big gulf between the top and bottom halves is something I mentioned in the Reading thread last week. Can't be arsed to repeat it so you'll have to have a look yourself But all i'll say is I can't imagine it closing much between now and the end of the season. For Spurs to reach the Top 10 they'd have to go on a run of a Top 4 side with West Ham in relegation form. Spurs may do that possibly, but I certainly can't see that happening for West Ham. I'd be surprised if there's less than 4 or 5 pts between them both at the end of the season. I would actually put Spurs in a class of their own too. They're not going down, but for the reasons mentioned above they won't finish in the Top 10 either.
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Post by Maximo Mark on Mar 10, 2008 11:03:17 GMT 1
Pedersen's rugby tackle on Stalteri should've been penalised therefore his goal is disallowed.
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Lost: Newcastle - 1 point Man City - 1 point Aston Villa - 1 points Birmingham - 1 point Fulham - 3 points Wigan - 1 point West Ham - 1 point Everton - 3 points Bolton - 1 point Sunderland - 2 points
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Post by Tom on Mar 10, 2008 18:40:19 GMT 1
Pedersen's rugby tackle on Stalteri should've been penalised therefore his goal is disallowed. Won: Tottenham - 2 points Liverpool - 4 points Blackburn - 4 points Middlesbrough - 2 points Reading - 2 points Chelsea - 1 point Portsmouth - 2 points Derby - 1 point Lost: Newcastle - 1 point Man City - 1 point Aston Villa - 1 points Birmingham - 1 point Fulham - 3 points Wigan - 1 point West Ham - 1 point Everton - 3 points Bolton - 1 point Sunderland - 2 points There was a guy who text in to Talk Sport yesterday morning saying that Fulham's goal should have been disallowed as well. He said it was an indirect free-kick and the Fulham player hadn't moved the ball enough to Bullard before Bullard struck it. I thought this guy was being picky, but having seen it again on MOTD2 last night he certainly had a point.
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Post by Panda on Mar 13, 2008 10:50:54 GMT 1
Poor penalty decision in the Villa-Boro game last night.
Luke Young slid in to try and block a cross in the penalty area, the ball hit his BACK, then cannoned onto his elbow with him looking in the opposite direction. How can that possibly be given as handball? Terrible decison.
The resulting penalty gave Villa a point they shouldn't have had and cost Boro 2 points. By my reckoning, that removes both clubs from the points lists...
To make matters worse, Steve Bennett booked Young AFTER the game for having the audacity to ask him to take a look at the decision.
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Post by frag on Mar 13, 2008 13:22:17 GMT 1
Poor penalty decision in the Villa-Boro game last night. Luke Young slid in to try and block a cross in the penalty area, the ball hit his BACK, then cannoned onto his elbow with him looking in the opposite direction. How can that possibly be given as handball? Terrible decison. The resulting penalty gave Villa a point they shouldn't have had and cost Boro 2 points. By my reckoning, that removes both clubs from the points lists... To make matters worse, Steve Bennett booked Young AFTER the game for having the audacity to ask him to take a look at the decision. Agreed, both ridiculous decisions.
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Post by Maximo Mark on Mar 13, 2008 14:36:56 GMT 1
Didn't see it but I'll take both your words. Won: Tottenham - 2 points Liverpool - 4 points Blackburn - 4 points Reading - 2 points Chelsea - 1 point Portsmouth - 2 points Derby - 1 point Lost: Newcastle - 1 point Man City - 1 point Birmingham - 1 point Fulham - 3 points Wigan - 1 point West Ham - 1 point Everton - 3 points Bolton - 1 point Sunderland - 2 points
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Post by Tom on Mar 13, 2008 15:35:41 GMT 1
Didn't see the incident either, but Steve Bennett has always struck me as being rather a picky referee. Always remembered by Reading fans as the guy who ruled out a goal in the 0-0 at Gillingham on New Years Day 2005 (a shocking game in dreadful conditions), which even Stan Ternant, the Gillingham manager at the time, said he could see nothing wrong with.
Of course my dad and I had already noticed in the programme before the game that he was from Kent... Its believed he's never refereed a game involving Gillingham since.
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Post by Panda on Mar 17, 2008 18:10:20 GMT 1
Some contentious issues at the weekend.
Man City had an offside goal given against Spurs and Spurs had one wrongly disallowed, so that could be a win for Spurs. I'm not sure what the process is when we have 2 decisions go against a team like that. Have we had a 6-point swing like that this season?
Arsenal had a goal wrongly ruled out against Boro as it was George Boateng who played the ball through to Adebayor, who shouldn't have been given offside, as a result. However, Arsenal shouldn't have been awarded the corner from which they equalised as Boateng was clearly fouled when he put the ball out of play. This error cancels out the earlier one for Adebayor's disallowed goal.
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Post by frag on Mar 17, 2008 18:13:31 GMT 1
Some contentious issues at the weekend. Arsenal had a goal wrongly ruled out against Boro as it was George Boateng who played the ball through to Adebayor, who shouldn't have been given offside, as a result. True. If you include that, then you must also include that the free kick from which Boro's goal originated was awarded without any foul. Also, Aliadiere was offside during the build-up. There were so many other things wrong with Halsey's "performance" that he might as well have been wearing a Man United shirt.
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Post by Maximo Mark on Mar 17, 2008 19:49:13 GMT 1
Then as we did witha game earlier, it's probably just best to leave it..
Will update it all after tonights game
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Post by Panda on Mar 18, 2008 0:48:45 GMT 1
If you include that, then you must also include that the free kick from which Boro's goal originated was awarded without any foul. I didn't see the incident. Also, Aliadiere was offside during the build-up. There have been dozens of goals like that where the offside player didn't receive the ball from the original pass but got onside again before scoring... Linesmen are instructed to raise the flag when the offside player receives the ball and as Tuncay received it, Aliadiere wasn't given offside.
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Post by Tom on Mar 18, 2008 12:34:18 GMT 1
If you include that, then you must also include that the free kick from which Boro's goal originated was awarded without any foul. I didn't see the incident. Also, Aliadiere was offside during the build-up. There have been dozens of goals like that where the offside player didn't receive the ball from the original pass but got onside again before scoring... Linesmen are instructed to raise the flag when the offside player receives the ball and as Tuncay received it, Aliadiere wasn't given offside. Exactly. Aliadiere wasn't active until he received the ball, by which time he was onside. Its not as if the Arsenal defenders hadn't caught him up by the time he received it either. The only debate was whether it was a foul in the first place by Arsenal. As I can't remember either that or the dubious decisions in the Man City-Spurs game i think i'll pass...
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Post by Earl Purple on Mar 18, 2008 23:29:20 GMT 1
Spurs and Man City has evened itself out over the season. Spurs won their home game on dodgy refereeing and now Man City have done the same.
I thought Man City might have had a penalty in the first half so a draw would probably be the correct result.
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Post by Panda on Mar 19, 2008 0:36:53 GMT 1
Spurs and Man City has evened itself out over the season. Spurs won their home game on dodgy refereeing and now Man City have done the same. I thought Man City might have had a penalty in the first half so a draw would probably be the correct result. We don't count penalties not given in this thread as there's no guarantee they'd have been scored.
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Post by Panda on Mar 26, 2008 18:40:56 GMT 1
Drogba's equaliser against Arsenal on Sunday looked offside...
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Post by Maximo Mark on Mar 26, 2008 19:32:17 GMT 1
I can't recall that, though I know Wenger saw it!
Everton's disallowed goal wasn't offside either.
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Lost: Arsenal - 1 point Newcastle - 1 point Birmingham - 1 point Fulham - 3 points Wigan - 1 point Everton - 4 points Bolton - 1 point Sunderland - 2 points Tottenham - 1 point
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Post by Panda on Mar 26, 2008 19:33:44 GMT 1
Poor Everton...
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