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Post by Maximo Mark on Aug 8, 2010 12:28:08 GMT 1
So, the first England match since the World Cup is on Wednesday at Wembley against Hungary.
Lots of changes to the World Cup squad.
Goalkeepers: Ben Foster (Birmingham), Joe Hart (Manchester City)
Defenders: Wes Brown (Manchester United), Gary Cahill (Bolton), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Michael Dawson (Tottenham Hotspur), Kieran Gibbs (Arsenal), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), John Terry (Chelsea)
Midfielders: Gareth Barry (Manchester City), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Adam Johnson (Manchester City), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), James Milner (Aston Villa), Ashley Young (Aston Villa), Theo Walcott (Arsenal), Jack Wilshere (Arsenal)
Forwards: Darren Bent (Sunderland), Carlton Cole (West Ham United), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Bobby Zamora (Fulham)
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Paul Robinson was also called up but has pulled out of the squad and retired from International football. Disappointed with that, I think him, Foster and Hart would've been the right way to go over the next 2-4 years.
No place for David James, Rob Green, Jamie Carragher, Matthew Upson, Ledley King, Leighton Baines, Stephen Warnock, Scott Parker, Tom Huddlestone, Aaron Lennon, Sean Wright-Phillips, Joe Cole, Michael Carrick, Peter Crouch, Jermain Defoe and Emile Heskey from the squad at the World Cup.
Some unlucky casualties there, Defoe, Crouch and Lennon didn't exactly do anything wrong in South Africa. And I still think Parker should be in there. Pleasing to see Jags, Dawson and Cahill all in the squad. With those three along with Shawcross and Jones all playing regular football in the Premiership and impressing I don't think we're ever going to have to call upon Upson, King or Carragher again - hooray!
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Post by Paddy on Aug 8, 2010 13:11:43 GMT 1
Matty Upson played not too badly in the WC. I'm glad to see a squad put together more to what I'd pick with less "big named" England players. Just Rooney to kick out then Lampard and Gerrard for an England squad that will care instead of just be in it for the fame.
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Post by Panda on Aug 8, 2010 13:19:49 GMT 1
Matty Upson played not too badly in the WC. He was good against Slovenia, sh*te against Germany. I suspect the latter tells us more about his international credentials. Good riddance to Robinson, the attention-seeking t**t. But we're starting to look really short of goalkeepers now... Good to see some new faces in the squad. Wilshere is a star of the future. Zamora has earned his chance. I'm not convinced by Gibbs yet but we'll see how he goes. Adam Johnson surely has to be the choice on the left wing. A few baffling inclusions. I wouldn't have Wes Brown anywhere near the Boro reserve team, let alone the England squad. Carlton Cole over Defoe and Crouch? I don't see what Lampard can possibly offer England over the next four years, given how little he's offered over the last four.
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Post by raliverpool on Aug 8, 2010 14:56:45 GMT 1
Disappointed that there is no Jack Rodwell in the squad; plus looking at the squad selections of other foreign super powers (especially Germany) in the World Cup surely must have told us to stop this xenophobic Johnny Foreigner attitude against selecting players who are now eligible to play for the National side .... so I would have selected Almunia & Arteta. Whilst after his outstanding pre season performances I'd have selected a player who played good football in the World Cup (which makes a change from the majority of this squad) Michael Owen.
I'm disappointed that John Terry is still in the squad after his AWOL "performance" in defence against Germany; and equally stunned how the Man Of The Match at Anfield in the UEFA Cup tie on Thursday (Joe Cole) is not selected.
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Post by Tom on Aug 8, 2010 15:04:34 GMT 1
On Crouch, Defoe, Lennon, its been mentioned in a couple of places that the Spurs players may have been left out ahead of their CL qualifier later in the month. Although if that is the case then why's Dawson been picked? Agree on Carlton Cole being picked is an odd inclusion, don't know what Parker has done wrong either, Brown's inclusion came as a shock, though don't know why really as he's been called up before and we're not exactly blessed with players who can play right-back with Carragher out of the squad. Joe Cole not in the squad is also a surprise, only thing i can think of is that Capello simply doesnt like him given how little he featured in the WC.
Going to the game on Wednesday, interested in seeing players like Gibbs and Wilshere who i've not seen much of so far. Not expecting too much from what is basically a pre-season friendly, just an England win and an ok performance will do me. Not expecting to have my past Wembley experiences watching England tarnished with a sh*tty performance...Hopefully it may go some way to making up for the Reading game yesterday!
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Post by Panda on Aug 8, 2010 15:14:57 GMT 1
Disappointed that there is no Jack Rodwell in the squad; plus looking at the squad selections of other foreign super powers (especially Germany) in the World Cup surely must have told us to stop this xenophobic Johnny Foreigner attitude against selecting players who are now eligible to play for the National side .... I'm not sure it's xenophobia. I'm just not sure how many of them want to play for England. For a start, Almunia is no better than the goalkeepers we already have. Arteta has previously said he doesn't want to play for England. Eriksson wanted to call up Di Canio a few years ago but again, he didn't want to play.
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Post by Maximo Mark on Aug 8, 2010 16:02:36 GMT 1
Disappointed that there is no Jack Rodwell in the squad; plus looking at the squad selections of other foreign super powers (especially Germany) in the World Cup surely must have told us to stop this xenophobic Johnny Foreigner attitude against selecting players who are now eligible to play for the National side .... so I would have selected Almunia & Arteta. Whilst after his outstanding pre season performances I'd have selected a player who played good football in the World Cup (which makes a change from the majority of this squad) Michael Owen. I'm disappointed that John Terry is still in the squad after his AWOL "performance" in defence against Germany; and equally stunned how the Man Of The Match at Anfield in the UEFA Cup tie on Thursday (Joe Cole) is not selected. Have you ever watched Almunia play? I think John Terry will always be there because at 29 he's still a relative youngster, compared to our other overhyhped prima donna's he's got an extra tournament in him. Also, captain or not, he's the best leader we have.
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Post by frag on Aug 8, 2010 18:55:46 GMT 1
Good to see some new faces in the squad. Wilshere is a star of the future. Zamora has earned his chance. I'm not convinced by Gibbs yet but we'll see how he goes. Adam Johnson surely has to be the choice on the left wing. A few baffling inclusions. I wouldn't have Wes Brown anywhere near the Boro reserve team, let alone the England squad. Carlton Cole over Defoe and Crouch? I don't see what Lampard can possibly offer England over the next four years, given how little he's offered over the last four. I agree about Wilshere, Zamora and Johnson. Gibbs is a more than able deputy for Clichy, and has done well for the U21s before his injury, which kept him out for most of last season. I'd add Agbonlahor to the list of players that should be in over C Cole - is he injured or something? Or is he still in the U21 squad? I'm very pleased that there are three Arsenal players here - not sure when we last had so many. Jay Emmanuel-Thomas could well be the next to step up, and we have plenty of other players in the U17/19/21 squads.
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Post by Panda on Aug 8, 2010 19:28:20 GMT 1
Incidentally, with the entire French World Cup squad suspended, this is the squad Laurent Blanc has named for the friendly against Norway:
Nicolas Douchez Stephane Ruffier Aly Cissokho Mathieu Debuchy Rod Fanni Philippe Mexes Adil Rami Mamadou Sakho Benoit Tremoulinas Yohan Cabaye Lassama Diara Blaise Matuidi Yann Mvila Samir Nasri Charles N'Zogbia Moussa Sissoko Hatem Ben Arfa Karim Benzema Jimmy Briand Guillaume Hoarau Jeremy Menez Loic Remy
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Post by Paddy on Aug 8, 2010 21:04:57 GMT 1
Nasri, Mexes, and Matuidi are names that make me go how did they not get included in the WC squad, and how come France were so sh*t? But I bet you this new squad will play better cos they will be more willing.
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Post by Maximo Mark on Aug 8, 2010 21:36:17 GMT 1
A few baffling inclusions. I wouldn't have Wes Brown anywhere near the Boro reserve team, let alone the England squad. He's retired too!
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Aug 9, 2010 17:30:05 GMT 1
watching england has become a chore, i can't remember the last england game i enjoyed. with the manager making a whole load of mistakes during the world cup this was a chance to start again yet he has dropped fringe players that hardlies played or players that didn't get a chance or did well! instead actually calling up the 4 worst performers of the world cup in terry, lampard, rooney and barry. fair enough rooney was injured and is our best player. but the other 3 are very lucky.
calling up wes orange only for him to retire is insane, i don't blame robinson, he has been treated as badly as anyone i can remember, gary neville scores an o.g and he gets dropped only for worse keepers to make howlers after howlers. fair play, im just glad heskey and carragher retired or they would be in his squad!
no joe lewis? if the other keepers arn't good enough and with recent retirements surely putting a young promising keeper in the team would be good experience.
no rob green? capello himself made him england number 1 all qualifying in which we did amaizing and first choice in the world cup, one mistake and his career is over. shades of robinson and carson, is it the keeprs fault or the management if previous mistakes continue to happen.
no parker? we lack legs in cm, people who sit, can run, can tackle and will give 100% we still lack that and parker is the best at this and capello himself keeps saying england need to press and win the ball back quicker yet he plays pansies that are scared to tackle, madness
no defoe? didn't he to capello's own index? enough said
swp? although i agree he should be dropped he also was top 3 in capello's own index, why has he dropped these people?
joe cole? wasn't given a chance, he never wanted to take him anyway and because we failed he has basically gone and said see i told you so, its his fault
no micah richards? glen johnson is an awful defender, he got his asshole ripped out of him against andorra! and i think the guy was a postman. good going forward when he isn't passing the ball out of play or hitting it long. carragher is awful and must be the slowest player i have ever seen and the constant call ups of a now retitred wes brown makes me wonder how this lad although a little rough round the edges is worse than these? same with onouha
im bored now, i could go on but im getting angry, some good call ups but they have just replaced players that are beter, did ok or never had a chance at the world cup anyway. i don't get it. surely throwing kids in at the deep end with the exact same team that played like a shower of sh*t will only lead to disaster
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Post by wonderwall on Aug 9, 2010 18:13:26 GMT 1
pointless match fed up with england boring boring boring !
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Post by Maximo Mark on Aug 9, 2010 19:25:15 GMT 1
Defoe is apparently injured...
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Post by frag on Aug 10, 2010 11:55:47 GMT 1
I'm very pleased that there are three Arsenal players here - not sure when we last had so many. Jay Emmanuel-Thomas could well be the next to step up, and we have plenty of other players in the U17/19/21 squads. The last time there were three Arsenal players in the England squad was for the 2006 world cup (Cole, Campbell, Walcott).
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Aug 10, 2010 17:19:07 GMT 1
Defoe is apparently injured... so was carrick he managed 79 minutes for manu though lol, capello is abit of a nonce, theres no way round it
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Post by Paddy on Aug 10, 2010 20:26:40 GMT 1
Ben Foster is also injured.
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Post by ligerdog7 on Aug 10, 2010 21:33:54 GMT 1
com on england kick but win lose draw sine baddddd times yoo yoloooo damm skipptyyy moo upp ggg
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Post by Maximo Mark on Aug 11, 2010 18:45:35 GMT 1
Jimmy Bullard joins Robinson and Brown in International retirement
Following announcements by Paul Robinson and Wes Brown, Jimmy Bullard has pushed the England team into further disarray by announcing his retirement from International football.
The un-capped midfielder spoke of his intention to focus on being not-quite-as-good as Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard for his club Hull City, without the distraction of being not-quite-as-good as them for England.
His announcement marks the loss of three hugely significant members of Capello’s recent squads, each of whom has brought their own unique abilities to the International arena.
England Fan Shane Green told us, “Watching Wes Brown play for England always made me feel like I could also make it at the top of the professional game. And I lost a leg ten years ago in an industrial accident.”
“And Paul Robinson’s career has shown amateur keepers up and down the country that there is no such thing as a ‘good’ goalkeeper, and that flapping at crosses, dropping shots and letting in soft goals is perfectly normal.”
“But worst of all is Bullard. We are a nation of slack-jawed footballing simpletons, and who will we look up to now?”
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Following the retirement of three such key individuals, England manager Fabio Capello has had to go back to the drawing board with his plans for Euro 2012.
“Who will pick up the bibs after training now?” he asked reporters.
“Who will stand in the wall when the good players want to practise free-kicks. It is a new selection head-ache, for sure.”
“They might think they are doing the right thing for themselves and the country, but my one word of warning would be that every time a professional footballer retires from international competition, it puts Phil Neville one place closer to a recall.”
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Post by suedehead on Aug 11, 2010 18:52:32 GMT 1
And I would also like to announce my retirement from international football. At 50 next month my legs just aren't as young as they were and I think it's time to let the younger lads get a chance.
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