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Post by Paddy on Feb 6, 2011 17:48:52 GMT 1
Youtube has it as nearly fatal accident...
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Post by ThinWhitePuke on Feb 6, 2011 22:08:01 GMT 1
Out for 2 years very likely :/
VERY IMPORTANT NEWS FROM LOCAL MEDIA
shortly after 21, after seven hours , complex surgery was concluded in Santa Corona di Pietra Ligure on the Formula One driver Robert Kubica, involved in a serious accident this morning at the rally "Ronde di Andora. " Just out of surgery, Professor Igor Rossello has commented on the action: "The patient reported two major injuries, but about the action performed by me, I can say that we managed to retrieve the limb. Now, what we can do is wait, the patient is hospitalized in intensive care, of course it cannot be excluded that in case of complications, new interventions might be needed .
While the chief surgeon of the hand of the San Paolo di Savona operated on the upper limb of Kubica, a second team took care of the leg, groped again to reform the severe trauma reported nell'icidente, occurred 12 hours now ago.
Robert Kubica will now be recovering at the hospital Santa Corona in the intensive care unit for at least five days. The prognosis, at least for the moment, is absolutely secure. To questions from reporters, addressed to Professor Rossello on the possible return to the track of Kubica, the specialist said: "It is not for me to make, but I can say that for the rehabilitation of the limb will take at least a year
That is 1 year for the rehabillitation of the limb that does not include getting race fit, building up the strength in the limb to handle g forces again, plus with the testing ban he can't test a car mid season so 2013 at the earliest
F1 career over sadly I think
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Post by Paul on Feb 6, 2011 22:29:37 GMT 1
I really hope it isn't career over for Kubica, but it is clear that he is out for the majority of 2011, if not all of 2011. This being the case, I doubt they would choose Senna or Grosjean as their full time replacement driver. Hulkenberg too is very inexperienced. Heidfeld is the logical choice, unless they break someone - maybe Sutil, Glock, Kobayashi, etc - out of contract.
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Post by paulgilb on Feb 6, 2011 23:22:31 GMT 1
There seem to be a couple of parallels between Kubica and Alessandro Nannini - Nannini's only F1 win came in a race where that season's champion crashed into a rival, and his arm was severed in a helicopter crash (whilst he was with Benetton - the team that would become Renault), ending his F1 career (although he did return to racing). Hopefully Kubica will be back eventually.
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Post by Paul on Feb 9, 2011 8:03:18 GMT 1
Eric Bouiller, Renault boss, has said they are looking at three drivers to replace Kubica - Senna, Liuzzi and Heidfeld.
Surely Quick Nick is a no brainer here? People so quickly forget that he actually beat Kubica in points in their entire time together as teammates at BMW.
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Post by ThinWhitePuke on Feb 9, 2011 9:35:39 GMT 1
Eric Bouiller, Renault boss, has said they are looking at three drivers to replace Kubica - Senna, Liuzzi and Heidfeld. Surely Quick Nick is a no brainer here? People so quickly forget that he actually beat Kubica in points in their entire time together as teammates at BMW. On paper he should be the obvious one, Kobayashi at Sauber last year destroyed him but equally that says a lot about the ability of Kobayashi, I am surprised Renault haven't tried to buy out Webber's contract, relations are strained with him at Red Bull and he is fast and experienced and Red Bull have another driver on the sidelines they are dying to give a go to.
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Post by Maximo Mark on Feb 9, 2011 12:00:31 GMT 1
I don't think you can really fault Nick last season, he did quite well I thought. Kamui was always going to beat him as he'd been driving the car all season. It's often surprising how little impact a new driver has mid-season, like Fisi at Ferrari.
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Post by Paul on Feb 9, 2011 12:29:54 GMT 1
Eric Bouiller, Renault boss, has said they are looking at three drivers to replace Kubica - Senna, Liuzzi and Heidfeld. Surely Quick Nick is a no brainer here? People so quickly forget that he actually beat Kubica in points in their entire time together as teammates at BMW. On paper he should be the obvious one, Kobayashi at Sauber last year destroyed him but equally that says a lot about the ability of Kobayashi, I am surprised Renault haven't tried to buy out Webber's contract, relations are strained with him at Red Bull and he is fast and experienced and Red Bull have another driver on the sidelines they are dying to give a go to. Kobayashi did not destroy Heidfeld at all. Their pace was very similar, although Kamui did qualify a bit better and scored more points because he had the momentum of the earlier races in the season. As Mark said, comparing his pace to someone who returned to the sport or switched teams like Schumacher this year, Fisi in 09, Villeneuve in '04, Nick did pretty well. I'm not surprised that Webber isn't an option. It seems that the Red Bull will be a very strong package next year and is probably more likely to win races than the Renault. Webber believes he can win the championship, regardless of the internal politics. Besides, the Renault seat could only be for half a season, and if Kubica returns there is no room for whoever replaces him for 2012 as they have both Petrov and Kubica signed up. I am a bit surprised that someone like Glock hasn't been mentioned though. I really don't get why people suddenly rate Mark Webber much more highly than Heidfeld either. Heidfeld beat him at Williams and it's just that Webber has had the opportunity to race a championship winning car that he is able to win races. I'm sure the same would have happened for Heidfeld if he had the same opportunities.
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Post by ThinWhitePuke on Feb 9, 2011 14:11:28 GMT 1
On paper he should be the obvious one, Kobayashi at Sauber last year destroyed him but equally that says a lot about the ability of Kobayashi, I am surprised Renault haven't tried to buy out Webber's contract, relations are strained with him at Red Bull and he is fast and experienced and Red Bull have another driver on the sidelines they are dying to give a go to. Kobayashi did not destroy Heidfeld at all. Their pace was very similar, although Kamui did qualify a bit better and scored more points because he had the momentum of the earlier races in the season. As Mark said, comparing his pace to someone who returned to the sport or switched teams like Schumacher this year, Fisi in 09, Villeneuve in '04, Nick did pretty well. I'm not surprised that Webber isn't an option. It seems that the Red Bull will be a very strong package next year and is probably more likely to win races than the Renault. Webber believes he can win the championship, regardless of the internal politics. Besides, the Renault seat could only be for half a season, and if Kubica returns there is no room for whoever replaces him for 2012 as they have both Petrov and Kubica signed up. I am a bit surprised that someone like Glock hasn't been mentioned though. I really don't get why people suddenly rate Mark Webber much more highly than Heidfeld either. Heidfeld beat him at Williams and it's just that Webber has had the opportunity to race a championship winning car that he is able to win races. I'm sure the same would have happened for Heidfeld if he had the same opportunities. There is absolutely no chance whatsoever of Kubica racing again this season, in order to be allowed to race he would have to pass an FIA test where he has to get himself out of a car in 8 seconds, with a shattered elbow and rebuilt hand and broken shoulder there is not the remotest chance he will have the strength in those muscles to haul himself out of a car in 8 seconds and that is before you take the broken thigh bone and ankle into account, the FIA are ultra rigid about the 8 second test, so whoever drives drives for the season. The reason I chose Webber is because of the fact that Renault has been very good in testing so far so there is a chance they have a race winning or even championship contending car on their hands and Heidfeld has no experience of winning races and no experience of fighting for titles whereas Webber has experience of both. Don't get me wrong Heidfeld is a good driver, if I was running a mid grid team he would be first name on my list but expectations are high at Renault thanks to testing so they need a proven winner.
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Post by Paul on Feb 10, 2011 9:26:04 GMT 1
The problem is that Renault don't really have a proven race winner that is available. There's no point in talking about Kimi Raikkonen as his heart would not be in it and it would take him some time to get up to speed.
Heidfeld is by far the best choice they have, and it looks like Renault are thinking the same. Heidfeld and Senna will both test for the team this weekend in Jerez.
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Post by Paddy on Feb 10, 2011 13:28:15 GMT 1
Anyone seen that Ford are filing a court order against Ferrari for the use of F150. The new Ferrari is F150 and Ford say they've used that for 40 years as a model of truck...
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Post by wonderwall on Feb 10, 2011 15:14:48 GMT 1
I hope Kubia does return but if i was him i would just be happy to be alive
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Post by Paddy on Feb 12, 2011 18:13:42 GMT 1
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Post by Paul on Feb 12, 2011 22:34:16 GMT 1
Looking very good for Nick Heidfeld. Renault have confirmed that Senna will not be a full time racer this year, so I'm not sure what's stopping them from confirming Nick.
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Post by raliverpool on Feb 16, 2011 21:16:50 GMT 1
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Post by ThinWhitePuke on Feb 16, 2011 21:20:30 GMT 1
Sensible decision, they needed an experienced driver and he was the best available realistic prospect
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Post by Paul on Feb 19, 2011 7:55:32 GMT 1
Great that Heidfeld is signed.
Liuzzi is testing with HRT today. He would be perfect for the second seat.
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Post by Paul on Feb 20, 2011 12:07:31 GMT 1
A decision will be made on Tuesday whether the Bahrain GP will go ahead. The GP2 Asia race was sensibly cancelled this weekend, and the final pre-season test there next week is as good as cancelled.
I strongly suspect we will start the season on the 27th Feb in Melbourne.
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Post by ThinWhitePuke on Feb 20, 2011 12:49:11 GMT 1
A decision will be made on Tuesday whether the Bahrain GP will go ahead. The GP2 Asia race was sensibly cancelled this weekend, and the final pre-season test there next week is as good as cancelled. I strongly suspect we will start the season on the 27th Feb in Melbourne. It should go ahead The people that are protesting are largely peasants who would not be able to afford to go to the GP so the GP itself would be safe, might be more security risks for fans staying in Manama centre itself but the race is more important than the fans, if necessary hold the race behind closed doors
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Post by Paul on Feb 20, 2011 13:22:24 GMT 1
A decision will be made on Tuesday whether the Bahrain GP will go ahead. The GP2 Asia race was sensibly cancelled this weekend, and the final pre-season test there next week is as good as cancelled. I strongly suspect we will start the season on the 27th Feb in Melbourne. It should go ahead The people that are protesting are largely peasants who would not be able to afford to go to the GP so the GP itself would be safe, might be more security risks for fans staying in Manama centre itself but the race is more important than the fans, if necessary hold the race behind closed doors I think that's a valid safety reason to scrap it. Besides, it feels a bit insensitive to race in Bahrain in 3 weeks with all the country is going through. There is talk of teams boycotting if the race does go ahead. Best solution is to start in Australia and squeeze Bahrain in at the end of the season.
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