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Post by frag on May 1, 2017 9:24:50 GMT 1
SCOTLANDLeague OneWith two games left, 4 teams are level on 46 points, with 2 play-off places to fight for! Stenhousemuir will be relegated if they don't win and Peterhead do. League TwoForfar will be promoted if they win and Arbroath lose. Annan will be in the play-offs if they beat 4th-placed Montrose. Montrose can also confirm their play-off place with a win, if Elgin lose. Cowdenbeath will enter the relegation play-off if they lose and Clyde v Berwick is a draw. League OneThe play-off picture becomes clearer, with Airdrie and Brechin opening up a 3-point gap with one game to go. Albion become the first team guaranteed to stay in the division. Stenhousemuir are off the bottom after winning at Queen's Park. League TwoForfar are down to second after a shock draw at bottom-placed Cowdenbeath, who can still save themselves next week. Annan are in the play-offs after a 5-1 win against Montrose.
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Post by o on May 1, 2017 12:14:04 GMT 1
Poor York Buckie Thistle drew 2-2 with East Kilbride in the Scottish play off 1st leg, be interesting to see what happens in the 2nd Leg on May 6th, and who gets to play them, Berwick are in real trouble, but just need a point, having won 1 in their last 9, I'm worried.
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Post by suedehead on May 1, 2017 15:17:28 GMT 1
The bottom of the Championship is nail-bitingly close. Blackburn could start the day in the bottom three, lose yet stay up. Alternatively, Forest could start the day above the line, win but still go down.
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Post by Shireblogger on May 1, 2017 15:22:38 GMT 1
Sadly, it seems like Birmingham will stay up, despite Redknapp's interference. There'll be fury amongst Birmingham fans when his survival bonus gets revealed.
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Post by Panda on May 1, 2017 22:09:49 GMT 1
Incredible that York and Spennymoor will be in the same division next season...
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Post by suedehead on May 1, 2017 22:25:36 GMT 1
Incredible that York and Spennymoor will be in the same division next season... I'm not sure that's the word York's supporters would use! On a more positive note, I moved to Bournemouth 20 years ago. At the time Brighton were in danger of dropping out of the league (and probably out of business). Bournemouth were also in serious financial trouble. Next season they will meet in the Premier League.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 20:39:32 GMT 1
Incredible that York and Spennymoor will be in the same division next season... I'm not sure that's the word York's supporters would use! On a more positive note, I moved to Bournemouth 20 years ago. At the time Brighton were in danger of dropping out of the league (and probably out of business). Bournemouth were also in serious financial trouble. Next season they will meet in the Premier League. Oh yes, although I have only been a supporter since 1999, I've heard plenty of stories from supporters older than me who went through all that. I was 10 when I first became a fan, now I'm 28. I think the bottom 2 in the Prem right now will stay the same and Swansea get out, only just. One part of me is only saying this cos I'd love a trip to Wales for a game.
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Post by suedehead on May 3, 2017 21:18:06 GMT 1
I'm not sure that's the word York's supporters would use! On a more positive note, I moved to Bournemouth 20 years ago. At the time Brighton were in danger of dropping out of the league (and probably out of business). Bournemouth were also in serious financial trouble. Next season they will meet in the Premier League. Oh yes, although I have only been a supporter since 1999, I've heard plenty of stories from supporters older than me who went through all that. I was 10 when I first became a fan, now I'm 28. I think the bottom 2 in the Prem right now will stay the same and Swansea get out, only just. One part of me is only saying this cos I'd love a trip to Wales for a game. Good to see another Seagulls supporter I'm in Brighton atm and was talking to a younger supporter (I'm guessing he was in his mid 20s) today. I was going through the same stories of how bad things got.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 12:23:23 GMT 1
Oh yes, although I have only been a supporter since 1999, I've heard plenty of stories from supporters older than me who went through all that. I was 10 when I first became a fan, now I'm 28. I think the bottom 2 in the Prem right now will stay the same and Swansea get out, only just. One part of me is only saying this cos I'd love a trip to Wales for a game. Good to see another Seagulls supporterĀ I'm in Brighton atm and was talking to a younger supporter (I'm guessing he was in his mid 20s) today. I was going through the same stories of how bad things got. Bellotti selling the ground without a replacement, a question style time debate on ITV Meridian, sharing with Gillingham and many years at a "temporary" ground. Real horror stories but we're back on the top table!.
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Post by o on May 4, 2017 13:27:48 GMT 1
My only memory of playing Brighton (I'm a Mansfield Town supporter) was when we beat you in the FA Cup at the Withdean, and went on to get Middlesbrough and lose, and then get relegated out of the Football league Must be 10 years or so ago, I think.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 14:39:48 GMT 1
It's been very up and down for you guys in recent years . We have a poor record with non league sides; one of which needing replays to beat FC United and Wrexham...
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Post by frag on May 5, 2017 21:10:26 GMT 1
This weekend... Premier LeagueMiddlesbrough need at least as good a result as Hull to avoid going down. Main problem is, Hull are at home to Sunderland and Boro are away to Chelsea... they'll also go down if they lose and Swansea win. Championship - Final DayBrighton & Newcastle are both promoted, and now duke it out for the title. Brighton need at least as good a result as Newcastle's to hold on to top spot. Fulham will take the last play-off spot, unless there's a 14-goal swing to Leeds. 1 from 3 go down: Brentford v BlackburnNottm Forest v Ipswich Bristol City v BirminghamBirmingham will only go down if they fail to win and both Nottm Forest and Blackburn do. If that doesn't happen, then whoever out of Forest/Blackburn gets the worse result will go down. If they both draw, then Blackburn go down. If they both win (and Brum win) or both lose, then Blackburn must be 2 goals better than Forest (e.g. Forest win 1-0, Blackburn need 3-0/4-1; Blackburn lose 2-1, they must hope Forest lose by 3). League Two - Final DayBlackpool v Leyton Orient Colchester United v Yeovil Town Crawley Town v Mansfield Town Exeter City v Carlisle United Grimsby Town v Plymouth Argyle Hartlepool United v Doncaster Rovers Newport County v Notts County Portsmouth v Cheltenham Town Stevenage v Accrington Stanley Wycombe Wanderers v Cambridge UnitedLots riding on this one... Champions: Plymouth, Doncaster and Portsmouth are all up, but can each clinch the trophy. Plymouth will make it with a win, or if Doncaster fail to better their result and Portsmouth fail to win. Doncaster need to win and hope Plymouth don't, or draw, Plymouth lose, and Portsmouth don't win. Portsmouth will win the league if they win and neither Doncaster nor Plymouth do. Play-offs: Luton, Exeter, plus two from SEVEN... Carlisle will be safe with a win. If they draw or lose, they'll be out of the play-offs should any two of the other teams (except Mansfield if they draw) win. Blackpool have by far the best goal difference, and will make the play-offs with a win, or a draw/defeat unless one of the other teams overtake them (see below). Stevenage will make it if they win and either Carlisle or Blackpool don't, or if they draw and two of: Carlisle lose, Blackpool lose, Wycombe draw, Colchester don't win, Mansfield don't win by 4+ goals. The other teams all need to win. A Cambridge win would be enough if 3 of: Carlisle don't win, Blackpool don't win, Stevenage don't win, Colchester don't win by more. Colchester make if if they win and 3 of: Carlisle/Blackpool/Stevenage don't win, Cambridge (win by fewer, or don't win - as long as they don't get thrashed!) Wycombe must win at Cambridge and hope that 3 of Carlisle, Blackpool, Stevenage, and Colchester don't (or, they could win by 6 and hope Colchester only win by 1, etc...) Mansfield must win and hope that 4 of: Carlisle lose, Blackpool lose, Stevenage lose (or draw, if Mansfield win by 4+), Wycombe v Cambridge is a draw, and Colchester don't win. Got your accumulator ready, o ? Relegation: Much simpler: either Hartlepool or Newport will join Leyton Orient in the National League. Hartlepool will be down unless they win and Newport don't.
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Post by o on May 5, 2017 22:34:27 GMT 1
Amazing that still so much to play for in league 2!
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Post by frag on May 6, 2017 8:59:52 GMT 1
Meanwhile, in Scotland... SPLInverness will be down if they lose and both Motherwell and Dundee win. Scottish Championship - Final DaySorted at the top (Hibs up, Falkirk, Dundee Utd and Morton in the play-offs). Four teams looking over their shoulder: Ayr must beat Raith by 5 goals to avoid direct relegation (they'd still be in the play-offs). Assuming they aren't thrashed, Raith will be in the relegation play-off unless they win and either St Mirren lose, or Dumbarton lose with a 10-goal swing. St Mirren will be in that play-off if they lose and Raith win. Dumbarton will slip down if they lose, St Mirren avoid defeat, and Raith win (with that 10-goal swing). Scottish League One - Final DayAirdrieonians v Queen's Park Peterhead v Alloa Athletic Stenhousemuir v Brechin City Stranraer v East Fife Play-offsAirdrie will be there unless they lose and two of: they lose by 4, Brechin lose by less (or not at all), East Fife win. Brechin will make it if they win/draw, or if they lose and either East Fife don't win, or Airdrie lose by more. East Fife will be there if they win and either Airdrie or Brechin lose. Queen's Park must win and two of: they win by 4, East Fife don't win, or Brechin lose with an 8-goal swing. Relegation/Play-offPeterhead are down unless they get a better result than Stenhousemuir. If that doesn't happen, Stenhousemuir will be in the relegation play-off unless they win, Stranraer lose, and there's a 14-goal swing (in which case Stranraer go into the play-off). Scottish League Two - Final DayEvery match has something riding on it! Berwick Rangers v Edinburgh City Elgin City v Cowdenbeath Forfar Athletic v Annan Athletic Montrose v Clyde Stirling Albion v ArbroathPromotion: Arbroath go up unless they don't win and Forfar do (or they lose by 5 and Forfar draw) Play-offs: Montrose get the final place unless Elgin get a better result. Relegation play-off:Cowdenbeath must play-off unless they win and either Clyde or Berwick lose. If one of those two loses and Cowdenbeath win, then they will play-off. If they both lose and Cowdenbeath win, it goes down to goal difference. Clyde's record is 48-63, Berwick's is 47-63: * If Berwick lose by at least as much, then they finish last. * If Clyde lose by 2 more goals, then they finish last * If Clyde lose by 1 more goal, then it comes down to goals scored... and if Berwick score 1 more (e.g. Berwick lose 1-2, Clyde lose 0-2), then it's a tie and presumably they must play off for the play off
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 9:59:16 GMT 1
About time they used direct promotion and relegation between Highland League etc and the 4th tier in Scotland. The number of times East Sterling finished bottom but never went down until last season was ridiculous.
In the past non league sides could only go up, if somebody in the main leagues went bankrupt am I right?, I.e. Annan replacing Gretna.
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Post by Tom on May 6, 2017 12:09:58 GMT 1
Great that Adam Le Fondre and Jem Karacan (both ex Reading) both scored to help Bolton win promotion. Le Fondre seems to have reignited his career there after not doing much since leaving us in 2014. I hadn't realised that Karacan was now playing for them after learning he was on trial there (tbh it was only his 2nd start). Karacan may need to prove himself as he's hardly played in the last year, but I can see ALF in the Championship next season whether he stays at Bolton or not, and Karacan will be in the Champ at some point, that's probably his aim.
Before the big game against Ebbsfleet I thought that Maidenhead would reach the 100 point mark, but even still to get 98 points in a 42 game season is incredible. Incredible to think too that 10 years ago there was talk that if the club was to move forward they would need to leave York Road. Personally I thought then that Conference South was the highest level the club could play at and any idea that the club could play higher was fanciful. But if there was any suitable location for a new ground it may have happened. Playing at the rugby club was mentioned, and so too a new ground at the rubbish tip between the rugby ground and York Road. I seem to remember that neither seemed a better option than York Road. Now they've got a new stand with a 3g pitch on the way. But the main reason they've gone up is because of Alan Devonshire, the manager. When he arrived in the summer of 2015 it was a real statement of intent, he wasn't going to come to a club aiming for survival every season. I think there was a 3 year plan, of top half last season (though I really thought they'd make the playoffs), playoffs this season (Devonshire has admitted they've exceeded expectations this season) and then promotion next season. Keeping Dave Tarpey, scorer of 40 odd goals this season, will be key, but there's no reason why they can't stay up, and possibly comfortably, next season. Not being full-time will be a challenge but Bromley, Dover and Maidstone have all been mid-table since going up from National South (or better), and Maidstone were in relegation trouble at the end of Feb but still ended up midtable having focused on the pitch and improving the ground with the playing side suffering. It was interesting that since it was announced they were going full-time next season their results dramatically improved.
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Post by suedehead on May 6, 2017 13:04:26 GMT 1
About time they used direct promotion and relegation between Highland League etc and the 4th tier in Scotland. The number of times East Sterling finished bottom but never went down until last season was ridiculous. In the past non league sides could only go up, if somebody in the main leagues went bankrupt am I right?, I.e. Annan replacing Gretna. The same sort of thing used to happen in England. Teams like Hartlepool and Crewe used to finish in the bottom four and apply for re-election year after year. However, they kept on winning re-election. Of course this season Hartlepool won't have that luxury if they finish in the bottom two.
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Post by o on May 6, 2017 18:36:06 GMT 1
I hear East Kilbride have beaten Buckie Thistle and will play Cowdenbeath for a place in the Scottish league, funny how those Highland teams keep on slipping up in the playoffs, nothing to do with the fact that none of them actually want to get into the Scottish League...
For me personally at this moment, I need a goal from yeovil and accrington and I'd be dancing round the room, it wont happen, but I can dream!
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Post by o on May 6, 2017 18:47:46 GMT 1
Ah, and we now need a goal ourselves
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 19:39:29 GMT 1
About time they used direct promotion and relegation between Highland League etc and the 4th tier in Scotland. The number of times East Sterling finished bottom but never went down until last season was ridiculous. In the past non league sides could only go up, if somebody in the main leagues went bankrupt am I right?, I.e. Annan replacing Gretna. The same sort of thing used to happen in England. Teams like Hartlepool and Crewe used to finish in the bottom four and apply for re-election year after year. However, they kept on winning re-election. Of course this season Hartlepool won't have that luxury if they finish in the bottom two. Now they're down . Jeff Stelling is cracking me up however.
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