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Post by Paddy on Aug 5, 2020 23:35:21 GMT 1
My acca will look something like Fulham down, Norwich or Bournemouth down, Hull promoted and Harrogate down.
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Post by vastar iner on Aug 6, 2020 17:34:23 GMT 1
One thing that seems to have been forgotten - the Europa League winners qualify for the Champions League next season so Wolves still have a chance, with England possibly having 5 clubs. If the league was decided on the lowest average wage bill per player for each point gained, Wolves would already be in the Champions League along with the runaway champions Sheffield Utd, Burnley and Brighton. Time for a change in the rules Other than I wouldn't trust the Wolves accounts as far as I could sh*t them out. Given the involvement of Mendes in all aspects. It's a travesty that nobody dares charge Wolves with illegal conduct.
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Post by o on Aug 6, 2020 18:00:57 GMT 1
My acca will look something like Fulham down, Norwich or Bournemouth down, Hull promoted and Harrogate down. I hope you aren't putting much on it, you will lose your money. I dont see Norwich going down again, I do potentially see Hull going down again, as they are in real trouble, on abd off the field, and I think Harrogate will do enough to stay up in league 2, as I (sadly) think there will be some clubs going bust or docked points and so in administration. Harrogate owner has deep pockets, so can fund their survival.
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Post by Razzle Dazzle on Aug 6, 2020 18:35:55 GMT 1
Never a great idea to bet on what you want to happen.
I got £350 back from a few season bets so I will Cash out the £300 and keep the 50 to play with this year
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Post by Paddy on Aug 6, 2020 18:59:53 GMT 1
My acca will look something like Fulham down, Norwich or Bournemouth down, Hull promoted and Harrogate down. I hope you aren't putting much on it, you will lose your money. I dont see Norwich going down again, I do potentially see Hull going down again, as they are in real trouble, on abd off the field, and I think Harrogate will do enough to stay up in league 2, as I (sadly) think there will be some clubs going bust or docked points and so in administration. Harrogate owner has deep pockets, so can fund their survival. I might just hope Norwich go down cos of who they are.
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Post by Tom on Aug 7, 2020 11:07:59 GMT 1
Think I heard that Brentford now have the worst playoff record, 9 attempts (?) including 4 finals and not won any of them. Reading also have lost 4 finals from 6 playoffs off the top of my head, so we don't have a bad record getting to finals. The Dover manager Andy Hessenthaler and his coaching staff have accepted 20% pay cuts but the players rejected cuts so unless the club gets some investment or offers for their players they'll be gone by the end of the month
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Post by o on Aug 7, 2020 13:22:42 GMT 1
Weird, because non league clubs dont pay their players over the summer, apart from contracted ones, and usually a lot leave in the summer unless you want them to stay?
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Post by Panda on Aug 7, 2020 13:41:33 GMT 1
Pretty much the whole National League is fully professional now so there'll barely be any players not on a contract.
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Post by Earl Purple on Aug 7, 2020 13:56:32 GMT 1
I'd have liked to Brentford to have gone up but I don't have much sympathy for them. They had three chances to seal promotion and bottled it each time. They should be up there again next season though. Boro could be there or thereabouts under Neil Warnock. No-one knows the Championship better than him so if he can't get them promoted, no-one can. Even though they were the worst team in the Premier League, Norwich might be the best placed of the relegated clubs to go back up. I have none because they sent us down.
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Post by Tom on Aug 7, 2020 14:30:51 GMT 1
Pretty much the whole National League is fully professional now so there'll barely be any players not on a contract. Yep, I remember a few years ago someone expressing surprise when i told them that Dover weren't full-time, I think at that point there were only about half a dozen in the NL that weren't, was surprised myself too, kept expecting to hear news that they would go full-time when they were consistently challenging for the playoffs. Then 2018-2019 they got off to a particularly bad start and relegation was looking likely and the club said they needed to go full-time to keep up. Personally I think they only went full-time because they appointed Hessanthaler as the manager at the time, as I don't think the previous manager Chris Kinnear was interested and I very much doubt Hessanthaler would have come otherwise.
There was talk during the lockdown about whether they would have to go part-time and it seems they're going semi part-time next season as they're moving from training 4 days a week to 3, assuming they survive of course.
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Post by Panda on Aug 7, 2020 14:30:59 GMT 1
I'd have liked to Brentford to have gone up but I don't have much sympathy for them. They had three chances to seal promotion and bottled it each time. They should be up there again next season though. Boro could be there or thereabouts under Neil Warnock. No-one knows the Championship better than him so if he can't get them promoted, no-one can. Even though they were the worst team in the Premier League, Norwich might be the best placed of the relegated clubs to go back up. I have none because they sent us down. Charlton being s*** sent Charlton down.
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Post by o on Aug 7, 2020 14:44:13 GMT 1
But if players contracts have run out in April or May, then those players are released, usually happens with at least half the squad if not more at that level? It's not about full or part time, at the Stags (who were a full time squad) when we were down there, it came out that the players were only paid July to May, they were contracted, but only for 11 months. Loads of teams in league 2 haven't signed anyone yet, because of the Covid situation, and I'm guessing that's the only thing that is keeping them going, the fact that they have a smaller squad at the moment.
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Post by o on Aug 7, 2020 14:46:11 GMT 1
14 players contracted, madness at that level!
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Post by smokeyb on Aug 7, 2020 21:41:18 GMT 1
First Minister Nicola Sturgeon says Aberdeen players "blatantly broke the rules" in the lead-up to Saturday's Scottish Premiership game against St Johnstone being postponed.
Two players tested positive for Covid-19 and six others are self-isolating after coming within "close proximity" in an Aberdeen bar on Saturday.
Sturgeon said she was "pretty furious" about the situation.
Aberdeen say they will not forfeit points because of the call-off.
The game has been rearranged for Thursday 20 August, with their home match against Livingston put back 24 hours to the following Sunday, but it is not yet clear if they will face any other sanction under Scottish Professional Football League rules.
Sturgeon said the Scottish government would be contacting all clubs to emphasise the importance of complying with the guidance and hoped "lessons will be learned".
"Football has been given the go-ahead on the strict condition that clubs and players abide by the guidance that has been agreed. If they don't do that, they put at risk the return of the professional game," she said. "To say this incident is deeply regrettable is an understatement.
"I'm pretty furious about this situation, because it shouldn't have happened. If that guidance is not going to be adhered to then all bets are off."
What should happen to clubs if this happens? Should they forfeit the match, be hit with a points deduction?
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Post by suedehead on Aug 10, 2020 13:48:40 GMT 1
Somebody has recalculated the Premier League table based on expected goals. Quite how they have calculated it, I don't know but somehow they have produced a table with fractions of points. I would have simply rounded the expected goals to the nearer whole number and used that as the result. If anyone wants to do that, feel free! Anyway, it shows Man City well clear at the top with Liverpool only just getting second ahead of Chelsea and Man Utd. Newcastle finish bottom with Norwich and Aston Villa also relegated. understat.com/league/EPL
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Post by o on Aug 10, 2020 13:55:20 GMT 1
"Pretty furious" is Nicola Sturgeon looking angry while putting on make up? Footballers do what the fudge they want, we saw that in the Prem League when various footballers had parties or gatherings, they're fit young men, it wont affect them, and then you have the Kyle Walker situation, where he said the isolation was affecting his mental health, so what do you do in that situation?
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Post by raliverpool on Aug 10, 2020 21:11:52 GMT 1
Somebody has recalculated the Premier League table based on expected goals. Quite how they have calculated it, I don't know but somehow they have produced a table with fractions of points. I would have simply rounded the expected goals to the nearer whole number and used that as the result. If anyone wants to do that, feel free! Anyway, it shows Man City well clear at the top with Liverpool only just getting second ahead of Chelsea and Man Utd. Newcastle finish bottom with Norwich and Aston Villa also relegated. understat.com/league/EPLHell, even Liverpool legend Mark Lawrenson predicted Man City to be PL champions by 3 points (with Spurs 3rd; Chelsea 4th; & the bottom three being Norwich (last) & Crystal Palace & Brighton).
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Post by suedehead on Aug 10, 2020 21:25:30 GMT 1
Somebody has recalculated the Premier League table based on expected goals. Quite how they have calculated it, I don't know but somehow they have produced a table with fractions of points. I would have simply rounded the expected goals to the nearer whole number and used that as the result. If anyone wants to do that, feel free! Anyway, it shows Man City well clear at the top with Liverpool only just getting second ahead of Chelsea and Man Utd. Newcastle finish bottom with Norwich and Aston Villa also relegated. understat.com/league/EPLHell, even Liverpool legend Mark Lawrenson predicted Man City to be PL champions by 3 points (with Spurs 3rd; Chelsea 4th; & the bottom three being Norwich (last) & Crystal Palace & Brighton). Ah yes, the Mark Lawrenson who is paid to go to World Cups and European Championships and spends the whole time whingeing. The Mark Lawrenson who forgets that his top flight career started at Brighton.
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Post by smokeyb on Aug 11, 2020 12:45:48 GMT 1
Now a Celtic player went to Spain last week and didn't tell his club and played on Saturday.
Looks like one more incident and the football season will be postponed.
Some players are idiots.
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Post by Shireblogger on Aug 11, 2020 14:26:00 GMT 1
Now a Celtic player went to Spain last week and didn't tell his club and played on Saturday. Looks like one more incident and the football season will be postponed. Some players are idiots. You missed the word "selfish" before idiots.
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