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Post by musicfan2000 on Jan 10, 2011 23:02:51 GMT 1
i kinda like it on first listen
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Post by Toy Toy's Boy on Jan 11, 2011 12:40:02 GMT 1
In less than a day, it's doing amazing on all the major sales markets (iTunes):
France = #1 New Zealand = #1 Sweden = #1 USA = #2 Australia = #2 Italy = #2 Canada = #7
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Post by Jordan on Jan 11, 2011 12:43:49 GMT 1
I read that it's already top 20 on every iTunes store it's released at
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Post by Toy Toy's Boy on Jan 11, 2011 18:14:48 GMT 1
In half a day, she broke the US record for the most radio ads of a single in history. Haters stay mad!
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borneoman
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Post by borneoman on Jan 11, 2011 18:38:59 GMT 1
#1 in the US now
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Post by Jordan on Jan 11, 2011 18:41:14 GMT 1
#1 in the US now
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Post by Toy Toy's Boy on Jan 12, 2011 0:01:02 GMT 1
God, what a flop She'll barely scrape into the Hot 100 the way she's selling...
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Post by Jordan on Jan 12, 2011 11:48:34 GMT 1
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Post by Jordan on Jan 12, 2011 17:11:22 GMT 1
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Post by Toy Toy's Boy on Jan 13, 2011 17:49:14 GMT 1
Industry Sources: Hold It Against Me Sales set to exceed 400,000
Threatening the reign of Mars' "Grenade" or the return of Perry's "Firework" to No. 1 next week will be the arrival of Britney Spears' "Hold It Against Me," which was released near-simultaneously at radio (Jan. 10) and exclusively at iTunes (Jan. 11). With airplay off to a blazing start and track sales set to exceed 400,000 according to industry sources, a second No. 1 debut for the pop starlet is likely. She previously started at the summit with "3" on the chart dated October 24, 2009.
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borneoman
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Post by borneoman on Jan 14, 2011 10:53:04 GMT 1
then straight at #1 next week for sure?
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Post by Jordan on Jan 14, 2011 11:27:47 GMT 1
then straight at #1 next week for sure? Not 100% for sure, but it is a pretty safe bet.
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borneoman
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Post by borneoman on Jan 14, 2011 15:09:19 GMT 1
assuming she has zero airplay (unlikely) and the others don't change much in airplay, she just needs to seel 115K more than Bruno or 141K more than Katy Perry and she'll be #1
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Post by Jordan on Jan 14, 2011 15:38:47 GMT 1
Well she has about 27m in airplay today, and that can pass at LEAST 35m before time's up, maybe 40m! So maybe it is 100% sure
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Post by raliverpool on Jan 14, 2011 20:30:05 GMT 1
Britney is capable of a cult hit. Hold It Against Me fails to deliver
In Britney's new single there are a few seconds of music that tantalisingly remind us of Blackout, and of ambition
Tom Ewing, music journalist Guardian.co.uk, Thursday 13 January 2011 22.14 GMT
Britney Spears … 'There’s a tendency for pop stars to release their most interesting music and immediately step back from it.'
Hold It Against Me, the lead single from Britney Spears's new album, surfaced online this week. For a song that is mostly rot Europop and rests on a gag last made by the Bellamy Brothers in 1979, it sparked an unusual degree of excitement. But pop fans don't care about Britney simply out of loyalty to an unlikely survivor. The real reason many of us rush for anything new from her is 2007's Blackout, an album as close to a cult hit as anything that sold 3m copies can be.
On Blackout – released with minimum promotion in the middle of her shaven-headed, zombie-eyed, walking-tabloid period – Britney gave us the tightest, most inventive dance-pop record of the last 10 years. Everything that's happened in mainstream pop since – such as the routine electronic treatment of vocals, or the turn to European club beats and synths – happened on this album, only in a darker, braver and catchier fashion. From its title in, Blackout didn't try to gloss over the state its star was in – it embraced it. In particular, the vocal twisting, distorted, blurred and robotised Britney, giving the eerie impression of a record that had swallowed up its own singer.
Blackout sounds even better now, partly because you no longer worry the singer's going to die in the next six months, so listening to it feels less like rubbernecking. But it also sounds better because Britney hasn't done anything as compelling since. She came back from Blackout with Circus, a tamer, less focused sequel, which had a few good songs but felt like a retreat.
This is a familiar syndrome. The standard view of the pop album – lazy collections of hits padded out with worthless filler – has been unfair for a while now. But there's still a tendency for pop stars to release their most interesting music and immediately step back from it. Kelly Clarkson's brooding My December was by no means perfect, but it was a lot more ambitious and coherent than All I Ever Wanted, her hit-craving follow up. Rihanna is at No 1 as I write with the lilting, pretty What's My Name? But its parent album, Loud, is a toothless thing compared with 2009's wrathful, brutal Rated R. For instance, the listless new revenge song Man Down wilts next to its 2009 counterpart Fire Bomb – an audacious power ballad about car-bombing a former lover, like a fantasy collaboration between Jim Steinman and JG Ballard.
It's not exactly a mystery why this happens. Chart pop, even more than most of the music business, is thoroughly market-driven, and in the case of Spears and Clarkson a return to Cheeky Britney and Fun Kelly was exactly what the market demanded. But it's still a shame – in all three cases the more interesting record wasn't some kind of misguided experiment, it was an organic progression from the music the act had made before. Clarkson got self-lacerating pop songs to sing before she wrote her own on My December. Rihanna had been perfecting a steely persona before she unleashed it fully on Rated R. And Britney's music had been moving away from bubblegum and into the club for two albums before Blackout. From an artistic perspective, it's the reassuring follow-ups that are the aberration, not the ambitious failures.
Plenty of people may scoff at the notion of approaching modern pop music from an artistic perspective at all. But if you don't, the chief criticism of pop – that it's "manufactured" – becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. One of pop's great panto villains is Mike Love of the Beach Boys, with his legendary objection to the release of Pet Sounds: "Don't f*** with the formula!" The music industry is full of Mike Loves – assuming pop's greatest aspiration is the production line puts you squarely on their side.
Meanwhile, the Britney-watchers pore over the new release, looking for hopeful signs. The best part of Hold It Against Me is its breakdown, where the song suddenly collapses into harsh, scattered beats but somehow holds together. It's a hint that the "Britney goes dubstep" rumours swirling around might not be completely wild. And more than that, it's a few seconds of music that tantalisingly remind us of Blackout, and it's ambition but sadly this track only has one tenth its quality. But it's Britney Spears so will go to #1 everywhere in this 21st century music universe where an over-hyped media campaign is everything ...... unfortunately. A real pity as it is no Piece Of Me; Break The Ice; Get Naked (I Got a Plan); Gimme More; Hot as Ice; Heaven on Earth....
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Post by Jordan on Jan 14, 2011 20:39:24 GMT 1
Whoever wrote that is a moron. He's comparing one song to a whole album. And if he thinks there's more to 'Gimme More' than there is this song, then he's equally delusional. I agree with him about the Rihanna and Kelly Clarkson and Circus comments though. They were all step's backwards.
If you can't write a review with a clear mind it's not worth my reading.
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Post by raliverpool on Jan 14, 2011 22:07:08 GMT 1
Whoever wrote that is a moron. He's comparing one song to a whole album. And if he thinks there's more to 'Gimme More' than there is this song, then he's equally delusional. I agree with him about the Rihanna and Kelly Clarkson and Circus comments though. They were all step's backwards. If you can't write a review with a clear mind it's not worth my reading. Tom Ewing, is a former music journalist for Melody Maker & the NME, who now does freelance reviews for The Word & Uncut magazine and regular columns/blogs in The Times and The Guardian. But he is by far most famously known for founding the legendary Freaky Trigger pop culture website which has been running since 1999. Where he is currently doing an epic review of all the UK#1 hit singles (he is currently up to 1990), which is great site that I look at weekly. As for his opinion, like his opinion on the last Kanye West & Robyn albums; how Janelle Monae is criminally underrated; how Bad Romance is the greatest pop record in 10 years; how Cheryl Cole's solo output pales into comparison with her former band's material; how Top Of The Pops needs to be brought back to stop Cowell's dominance of the chart denying the opportunity for new artists the likes of Robyn; Marina & The Diamonds; Little Boots; etc to become mainstream stars.... I think the phrase "hit the nail on the head" applies. After my initial buzz I realise this new Britney Spears single is good, catchy but not that great, and smacks of bandwagon grime/dubstep jumping making Brit School alumni Jessie J's Do It Like A Dude seem positively organic by comparison. So you calling a well known music journalist of 14 years a moron is your opinion which you are entitled to. But I strongly beg to differ. Lets be honest there are 8 or 9 tracks on Blackout better than HIAM.
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Post by Jordan on Jan 14, 2011 22:36:21 GMT 1
As an avid Britney listener, I know her songs in and out. And from what I can see, he isn't discussing the music, he's discussing the topics. Blackout was widely praised because it didn't avoid her personal troubles at the time. It was dark and edgey, and it was the most relvevant album to her as a person she had ever made.
Also, the music was simply brilliant. It's helped mould the style of pop we listen to today.
But he's basically just saying that because she's not singing about her breakdown or divorce or her being hunted by the media, that the song's no good. I'd rather judge a song for the music, not the parrellels with her personal life/media interpretation to her. I've read that review twice now and I still feel like he's not judging what he's hearing, but the lyrics and how they reflect her.
Yes he mentions the dubstep element and blah blah blah, but if he was actually listening to to the song, then he'd hear that the production of the song up until the breakdown are HIGHLY similar to what you can hear on Blackout. I respect that he has his own opinion, but from that I think he's approached the song in the wrong way. He's made two boxes before listening, 'Blackout' and 'Circus' the later being dissappointing, only due to the former's brilliance, and because the lyrics are a bit generic, he's put it in the Circus category.
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Post by Ramz on Jan 14, 2011 23:54:44 GMT 1
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Post by borneoman on Jan 15, 2011 7:52:07 GMT 1
^that's very good news!!! was starting to fear UK people would have to wait >1 month!!!
regarding the comments above, this is faaaaaaar better than anything off Blackout, which is Britney at her worst imho, especially Gimme More. That said, the new single pales in comparison with her best singles like Toxic or Everytime...
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