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Post by Robin on May 28, 2016 16:55:15 GMT 1
I find it difficult to believe you sold Alex John Baptiste for £10,000. He was already being heralded as a future Premier League star when at the Stags so why would he be sold so cheaply!!!
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Post by o on May 28, 2016 18:00:29 GMT 1
Because of Haslam!!! He would have sold his own dead granny for money if he had the chance. I think he was almost out of contrcat, so Haslam just wanted to cash in, and spend the cash on a new pool for his villa in Portugal! He milked us for so much cash it was incredible, all while paying himself a wage, and loaning himself money from the club, which he never paid back! It's amazing we survived so long in the football league with him in charge! We got lucky with youngsters like Lawrence, Williamson, Hassell, Disley and then Baptiste!
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Post by Robbie on May 28, 2016 18:36:49 GMT 1
Wow, great goal by Hull. I'm hoping Sheffield Wednesday will win but that was one wonderful shot.
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Post by Mart!n on May 28, 2016 18:58:39 GMT 1
The relatively poor goal-difference in 2012 and 2014 come partly from the fact that they suffered 6-goal margin defeats in both those seasons. Other than that, 2014 is the best recent season albeit they finished only 4th and at one point Everton had a chance to deny them even that at one point. I wouldn't say they had a poor history, when Arsenal have been in the Champions League for 6 years+, no other English team has done that. Coming Top 4 for the past few years in the Premier League, that's a good going in my book, considering they flop a few times.
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Post by Earl Purple on May 29, 2016 9:32:28 GMT 1
I was just looking at the actual number of points Arsenal achieved each season. 2008 then 2014 are the highest points totals they had. In the first of those, they were genuine contenders until the game at Birmingham where Eduardo Da Silva became victim of a horrible tackle that kept him out the rest of the season (as well as out of Euro 2008).
2014 was quite an "open" season really, Liverpool came close to winning it, Arsenal looked good early in the season but had heavy defeats away to their rivals (they lost 6-3 at Man City, 5-1 at Liverpool and 6-0 at Chelsea), and at one point in the season, Everton beat them 3-0 to move above them into 4th place, but then Everton "bottled" it. However they still finished with 72 points, one more than Arsenal did this season. Arsenal finished with 79, 2 fewer than Leicester had this season.
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Post by Tom on May 29, 2016 9:42:32 GMT 1
Didn't see the game as I was at work. You can't tell much from friendlies. A few weeks back, England beat the world champions, then lost to a team that didn't even qualify for the Euros. As it is, I can't see England winning the tournament. If they get to the quarters, they've done well. Anything less would be a disappointment. Had finished and clicked to post but lost everything. So 2nd time lucky, hopefully i'll remember everything I had said, here goes...
I thought it was a deserved win and beating Turkey wasn't bad at all. I don't think we'll win it either. I was thinking we're capable of reaching quarters or semis, but was leaning towards quarters as Welbeck is a big loss. But after the Australia game I really don't know anymore, hopefully will have a better idea in the next couple of weeks. We seem like we can concede against anybody even when it doesn't look likely. I know Dier is more likely to play in midfield but it's not inconceivable that he may be needed to play at centre back at some point in the tournament and that adjustment worries me.. I've seen with Michael Hector at Reading how establishing himself as a defensive midfielder and then switching between centre-back and midfield can affect someone's performances.
We won't have any excuses about preparation though. England have collected all the performance data from the clubs and there's talk about individual training plans. I'm sure Leicester did that...
It was interesting to read that this is the most inexperienced squad England have taken to a major tournament since Euro 96.
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Post by Tom on May 29, 2016 9:55:44 GMT 1
Good news (for once!) coming from St James Park - Rafa Benitez has decided to stay at Newcastle and has signed a three year contract. Mike Ashley must have opened up his cheque book to get Rafa to stay. I love it! In contrast to what's happening at my club atm. Don't think I've ever been more disillusioned after McDermott's sacking on Friday (which I only found out about yesterday afternoon - has rather tarnished my interest/enjoyment of the French Open too ), with a couple of coaching staff joining Celtic earlier in the week and Nicky Hammond going to West Brom as their director of football a month ago. It depresses and p*sses me off as I can see us doing a Charlton (so it was interesting to see a thread on this subject on our forum) in the next couple of years. We always get relegated when the year ends in 8 anyway...
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Post by Tom on May 29, 2016 9:59:19 GMT 1
Thought I'd share this list of transfers that someone has compiled on Stagsnet of Mansfield Town players. Some are criminally low, but hey when you have a chairman looking for a fast buck to asset strip the club before selling, that is what happens Some names may be familiar to some posters. Mansfield Town - Transfer Fees ReceivedColin Calderwood - £640,000 Simon Coleman - £600,000 Lee Peacock - £500,000 Liam Lawrence - £375,000 Craig McKernon - £250,000 Kevin Hitchcock - £250,000 (half to Forest) Paul Holland - £250,000 Mick Saxby - £225,000 (£150,000 + Steve Taylor) Nicky Weaver - £200,000 Luke O’Neill - £200,000 Sam Clucas - £180,000 (£1.3m-£100,000 x 15%) Darren Ward - £150,000 Ian Barraclough - £150,000 Terry Austin - £125,000 Dave Syrett - £105,000 (£75,000 plus Terry Austin) Phil Stant - £100,000 Tom Naylor - £100,000 Ray Clarke - £90,000 John McLelland - £90,000 Steve Wilkinson - £90,000 Darrell Clarke - £80,000 Richie Barker - £80,000 Giles Coke - £70,000 Lee Gregory - £62,500 (£250,000 x 25%) Stuart Boam - £50,000 Kevin Gray - £50,000 John Doolan - £50,000 John Mullins - £50,000? Ken Wagstaff - £40,000 Iffy Onuora - £25,000 Lee Williamson - £20,000? Ollie Palmer - £20,000 Ernie Moss - £15,000 Colin Foster - £13,000 Alex John Baptiste - £10,000 Several of those are familiar but the ones that stand out are John Mullins (ex Reading) and Iffy Onoura. Didn't realise he played for Mansfield. Was that before or after he played for Gillingham? Did he do well for you?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 10:23:59 GMT 1
I really wanted to see Sheff Wed go up and back in the big time but alas another season of Hull struggling is what we have.
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Post by o on May 29, 2016 10:56:40 GMT 1
Thought I'd share this list of transfers that someone has compiled on Stagsnet of Mansfield Town players. Some are criminally low, but hey when you have a chairman looking for a fast buck to asset strip the club before selling, that is what happens Some names may be familiar to some posters. Mansfield Town - Transfer Fees ReceivedColin Calderwood - £640,000 Simon Coleman - £600,000 Lee Peacock - £500,000 Liam Lawrence - £375,000 Craig McKernon - £250,000 Kevin Hitchcock - £250,000 (half to Forest) Paul Holland - £250,000 Mick Saxby - £225,000 (£150,000 + Steve Taylor) Nicky Weaver - £200,000 Luke O’Neill - £200,000 Sam Clucas - £180,000 (£1.3m-£100,000 x 15%) Darren Ward - £150,000 Ian Barraclough - £150,000 Terry Austin - £125,000 Dave Syrett - £105,000 (£75,000 plus Terry Austin) Phil Stant - £100,000 Tom Naylor - £100,000 Ray Clarke - £90,000 John McLelland - £90,000 Steve Wilkinson - £90,000 Darrell Clarke - £80,000 Richie Barker - £80,000 Giles Coke - £70,000 Lee Gregory - £62,500 (£250,000 x 25%) Stuart Boam - £50,000 Kevin Gray - £50,000 John Doolan - £50,000 John Mullins - £50,000? Ken Wagstaff - £40,000 Iffy Onuora - £25,000 Lee Williamson - £20,000? Ollie Palmer - £20,000 Ernie Moss - £15,000 Colin Foster - £13,000 Alex John Baptiste - £10,000 Several of those are familiar but the ones that stand out are John Mullins (ex Reading) and Iffy Onoura. Didn't realise he played for Mansfield. Was that before or after he played for Gillingham? Did he do well for you? Just checked Wiki and we sold him to Gillingham, I know we got him from Huddersfield, I liked him, and his daughter was at Mel's school in Leeds, so when she mentioned her husband was a Stags fan, he got us free tickets whenever we wanted them. Nice chap, suffered with injuries to his toe while at the Stags, if I remember rightly? But also did very well at Gillingham, always pleased to see his name on the vidi printer!
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Post by Tom on May 29, 2016 12:38:33 GMT 1
Several of those are familiar but the ones that stand out are John Mullins (ex Reading) and Iffy Onoura. Didn't realise he played for Mansfield. Was that before or after he played for Gillingham? Did he do well for you? Just checked Wiki and we sold him to Gillingham, I know we got him from Huddersfield, I liked him, and his daughter was at Mel's school in Leeds, so when she mentioned her husband was a Stags fan, he got us free tickets whenever we wanted them. Nice chap, suffered with injuries to his toe while at the Stags, if I remember rightly? But also did very well at Gillingham, always pleased to see his name on the vidi printer! He did do very well at Gillingham, remember him well from their mid-late 90s team. He was paraded before a Gillingham game I went to, think it was the Newcastle league cup game in 2014, and got a good reception. We were near the front of the main stand and seem to remember before or after he was formally introduced people in front wanting to say hello and shake his hand. He was a popular player. These days to me he's in the shadow of his younger sister, Anyika, Gb athlete who presumably will be in the Olympic team for 100/200/400m (don't think the latter but she has run it and does both relays). There's such a striking resemblance that as soon as I first saw her it was obvious she was related to him!
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Post by o on Jun 9, 2016 14:46:03 GMT 1
A few rule changes for the new season.
i. The ball can now go in any direction from the kick off, it no longer has to move forward. ii. A tackle which results in a yellow or red card, if the player needs treatment he no longer needs to leave the pitch after receiving treatment. iii. Red cards can be issued before the match has begun iv. The end of the triple punishment rule, a professional foul that results in a penalty will only see the player receive a yellow card and a pen rather than a red! (Last one clarified - Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offending player is cautioned unless: The offence is holding, pulling or pushing or The offending player does not attempt to play the ball or there is no possibility for the player making the challenge to play the ball or The offence is one which is punishable by a red card wherever it occurs on the field of play (e.g. serious foul play, violent conduct etc.)")
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Post by suedehead on Jun 9, 2016 15:02:20 GMT 1
Rule changes used to come into effect just in time for the World Cup. Do these apply to the Euros, or do they start with the new season?
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Post by o on Jun 9, 2016 15:40:40 GMT 1
Not sure, assuming just our season.
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Post by o on Jun 9, 2016 15:41:34 GMT 1
And they should do a campaign to stop the holding and blocking at corners, it would lead to more goals, and therefore make games more entertaining.
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Post by Tom on Jun 9, 2016 18:37:24 GMT 1
Read/heard these rule changes recently. Not entirely sure but I think they've been brought in now to be used in the Euros.
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Post by Paddy on Jun 9, 2016 18:42:45 GMT 1
iv. The end of the triple punishment rule, a professional foul that results in a penalty will only see the player receive a yellow card and a pen rather than a red! (Last one clarified - Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offending player is cautioned unless: The offence is holding, pulling or pushing or The offending player does not attempt to play the ball or there is no possibility for the player making the challenge to play the ball or The offence is one which is punishable by a red card wherever it occurs on the field of play (e.g. serious foul play, violent conduct etc.)")
Errrm, so when does this new rule apply?
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Post by Tom on Jun 9, 2016 20:07:57 GMT 1
iv. The end of the triple punishment rule, a professional foul that results in a penalty will only see the player receive a yellow card and a pen rather than a red! (Last one clarified - Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offending player is cautioned unless: The offence is holding, pulling or pushing or The offending player does not attempt to play the ball or there is no possibility for the player making the challenge to play the ball or The offence is one which is punishable by a red card wherever it occurs on the field of play (e.g. serious foul play, violent conduct etc.)") Errrm, so when does this new rule apply? See my post above, but i'm sure I heard Dermot Gallagher say the rules were being introduced on 1st June. Pretty sure Clive Tyldesley mentioned that one during one of the England games recently in that it will be something we might see at the Euros.
And a quick google search does suggest as I thought, they will be used at the Euros.
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Post by Paddy on Jun 10, 2016 0:09:37 GMT 1
iv. The end of the triple punishment rule, a professional foul that results in a penalty will only see the player receive a yellow card and a pen rather than a red! (Last one clarified - Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offending player is cautioned unless: The offence is holding, pulling or pushing or The offending player does not attempt to play the ball or there is no possibility for the player making the challenge to play the ball or The offence is one which is punishable by a red card wherever it occurs on the field of play (e.g. serious foul play, violent conduct etc.)") Errrm, so when does this new rule apply? See my post above, but i'm sure I heard Dermot Gallagher say the rules were being introduced on 1st June. Pretty sure Clive Tyldesley mentioned that one during one of the England games recently in that it will be something we might see at the Euros.
And a quick google search does suggest as I thought, they will be used at the Euros.
I wasn't talking months I was talking time in the game. All scenarios I can think of are void of this happening!
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