Football Thread 2023/24

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League Cup draw made.

Southern Section
Plymouth Argyle v Leyton Orient
Forest Green Rovers v Portsmouth
Swansea City v Northampton Town
Exeter City v Crawley Town
Ipswich Town v Bristol Rovers
Newport County v Charlton Athletic
Stevenage v Watford
Cheltenham Town v Birmingham City
Sutton United v Cambridge United
MK Dons v Wycombe
Millwall v Reading
AFC Wimbledon v Coventry City
Bristol City v Oxford United
Gillingham v Southampton
Queens Park Rangers v Norwich City
Peterborough United v Swindon Town
Cardiff City v Colchester United

Northern Section
Notts County v Lincoln City
Bolton Wanderers v Barrow
Hull City v Doncaster Rovers
Mansfield Town v Grimsby Town
Stoke City v West Bromwich Albion
Sheffield Wednesday v Stockport County
Leeds United v Shrewsbury Town
Preston North End v Salford City
Rotherham United v Morecambe
Harrogate Town v Carlisle United
Burton Albion v Leicester City
Accrington Stanley v Bradford City
Derby County v Blackpool
Port Vale v Fleetwood Town
Barnsley v Tranmere Rovers
Blackburn Rovers v Walsall
Huddersfield Town v Middlesbrough
Wrexham v Wigan Athletic
Sunderland v Crewe Alexandra

[Earl Purple]

Newport County away.

Recall that last season we reached the quarter final, were the last London team left in the contest and lost 3-0 away to Manchester United but two of those goals were right at the end. We knocked out Brighton on the way, who finished 6th in the Premier League.

[Shireblogger]

Jun 24, 2023 16:51:26 GMT 1 o said:

League Cup draw made.

Southern Section
Gillingham v Southampton

Last season Southampton were the team that stopped Manchester City winning the quadruple, and reached the semi-final. Now the very real chance of not making the second round. #woeful mis-management# #sack the board#

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I'm hoping the Cardiff and Swansea games are on different nights, so I can go watch both and tick two more grounds off

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No comment on the first female boss being appointed at a senior men's team?
Hannah Dingley appointed at Forest Green Rovers.

[Razzle Dazzle]

Jun 25, 2023 11:51:31 GMT 1 Shireblogger said:

Jun 24, 2023 16:51:26 GMT 1 o said:

League Cup draw made.

Southern Section
Gillingham v Southampton

Last season Southampton were the team that stopped Manchester City winning the quadruple, and reached the semi-final. Now the very real chance of not making the second round. #woeful mis-management# #sack the board#

Best way to sum up how Southampton have been run is looking at the team they could've had for the last decade, imagine this team 10 years ago, it would've been top class for a decade, i know sometimes you need to sell to buy but since the chairman died they have been ran very poorly 

GK Forster (25)
RB Chambers (18)
CB Van Dyke (21)
CB Alderwerald (24)
LB Shaw (17)
CM Wanyama (22)
CM Ward Prowse (18)
CAM Tadic (24)
LW Bale (23)
CF Mane (21)
RW Walcott (24)

Clyne (22)
Oxlade Chamberlain (19)
Lallana (25)
Pelle (27)

with Pochettino as manager

I don't think you can take any other team that's not already a super rich established team and pick a lineup like that of players that played for them over the last decade

[Shireblogger]

Jul 5, 2023 11:58:24 GMT 1 Razzle Dazzle said:

Jun 25, 2023 11:51:31 GMT 1 Shireblogger said:

Last season Southampton were the team that stopped Manchester City winning the quadruple, and reached the semi-final. Now the very real chance of not making the second round. #woeful mis-management# #sack the board#

Best way to sum up how Southampton have been run is looking at the team they could've had for the last decade, imagine this team 10 years ago, it would've been top class for a decade, i know sometimes you need to sell to buy but since the chairman died they have been ran very poorly 

I don't think you can take any other team that's not already a super rich established team and pick a lineup like that of players that played for them over the last decade

Totally agree.

You could also throw in Dejan Lovren, Pierre-Emil Hojbjerg, Matt Targett and Morgan Schneidelin as players who made their Premier Division debuts with Southampton, and got sold on to a bigger club for a profit during the past 10 years.

The really stupid thing is that if you add up every Southampton transfer ever above £1 million, the club has received £490 million from sales, but spent £420 million.

From these 7 players Southampton made a profit of almost £200m:- van Dyk (+£64m), Shaw (+£27m), Lallana (+£25m), Sane (+£24m), Schneiderlin (+£23m), Chambers (+£16m), Targett (+£16m).

Which means the club has p*ssed a huge amount up the wall on total rubbish:- Guido Carillo (£19m), Soufiane Boufal (£18m), Pablo Daniel Osvaldo (£15m), Wesley Hoedt (£15m), Angus Gunn (£14m), Gaston Ramirez (£11m), Florin Gardos (£10m). If you remember any of these players setting the Premier Division alight, then you'd shock every Southampton supporter. Every one of those players, except Gunn, left on a free transfer within 3 years, and in some cases, within a year.

[Panda]

Over in the States, the CONCACAF Gold Cup is currently taking place. A few surprise results in the group stage mean CONCACAF's best 4 teams are facing each other in the quarter-finals.

Guatemala v Jamaica
Mexico v Costa Rica
USA v Canada
Panama v Qatar

Qatar are playing as a guest team and qualified for the knockout stages ahead of Honduras after beating Mexico 1-0 in their final group game with their only shot of the match.

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England win the Euro U21s against Spain 1-0, with an injury time double penalty save to keep it at 1-0, brilliant!

[suedehead]

Has James Trafford (the goalkeeper) stopped smiling yet? He smiled his way through the rest of the match and, obviously, the celebrations afterwards.

[Panda]

Saw an amazing stat the other day relating to England's previous Euro U21 final appearance in 2009, when they lost 4-0 to Germany. 6 members of that German squad went on to win the World Cup in 2014. 7 members of the England squad went on to play for Sunderland.

[Shireblogger]

England last won the European U-21 championship in 1984.

The final was played over two legs, and England beat Spain 1-0 in Seville and 2-0 at Bramall Lane, Sheffield.

The England players across those two matches, with their clubs at the time, and the total number of full caps they would go on to earn were:-

Gary Bailey (Man Utd) 2
Peter Hucker (QPR) 0

Mel Sterland (Sheff Wed) 1
Danny Thomas (Tottenham) 2
Nick Pickering (Sunderland) 1
Gary Stevens (Tottenham) 7
Paul Bracewell (Stoke) 3
Derek Mountfield (Everton) 0
Dave Watson (Norwich) 12

Nigel Callaghan (Watford) 0
Steve Hodge (Nottm For) 24
Kevin Brock (Oxford) 0

Howard Gayle (Birmingham) 0
Mark Hateley (Portsmouth) 32
Mich D'Avray (Ipswich) 0
Danny Wallace (Southampton) 1

So, just two of the team went on to play more than a dozen times for England.

- Liverpool won the League that season, and supplied nobody to the squad.
- Kevin Brock was playing for Oxford Utd at the time, who had just won the Third Division. This didn't stop Dave Sexton from giving him all 180 minutes of the final.
- Portsmouth finished 16th in Division Two. Their main striker, Mark Hateley, was voted the best player of the tournament by the European press, and was the championship's top scorer.

[frag]

Jul 5, 2023 10:18:53 GMT 1 o said:

No comment on the first female boss being appointed at a senior men's team?
Hannah Dingley appointed at Forest Green Rovers.

Saw that, Forest Green blazing a trail again. I don't have a League Two team to follow at the moment, so might have to start paying attention to them, especially if they keep her full time rather than just as a caretaker manager.

[Shireblogger]

Jul 10, 2023 10:07:27 GMT 1 frag said:

Jul 5, 2023 10:18:53 GMT 1 o said:

No comment on the first female boss being appointed at a senior men's team?
Hannah Dingley appointed at Forest Green Rovers.

Saw that, Forest Green blazing a trail again. I don't have a League Two team to follow at the moment, so might have to start paying attention to them, especially if they keep her full time rather than just as a caretaker manager.

That's the key. Is this a serious appointment with a reasonable likelihood of becoming permanent, or is it a publicity stunt ? I sincerely hope the former, and FGR do have strong credentials ref. modern thinking, so fingers crossed.

[Razzle Dazzle]

I never even knew, its not been in any news I have come across, as it shouldn't be, because i haven't heard of or known of any Forest Green appointment so glad it hasn't been milked to death

[Panda]

CONCACAF Gold Cup quarter-finals:
Guatemala 0-1 Jamaica
Mexico 2-0 Costa Rica
USA 2-2 Canada (USA win 3-2 on pens)
Panama 4-0 Qatar

Semi-finals:
Jamaica v Mexico
USA v Panama

[Bluewhalesroxs007]

Not long new premur league starts next mounth
Be on bd go
Me think later augest 7th bd
Liverpool av do better innittttt



I needs more hiphop
Cds

[Panda]

Jul 11, 2023 8:13:11 GMT 1 Bluewhalesroxs007 said:

Not long new premur league starts next mounth
Be on bd go
Me think later augest 7th bd
Liverpool av do better innittttt



I needs more hiphop
Cds

First game is 11th of August.

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Bayern Munich won 27-0 at a team called FC Rottach-Egern (rotten feet) in a friendly, which is an improvement on the 23-0 they inflicted on the same team a few years ago!
While it's great to see giants like this playing smaller teams (boosting their attendance and income), I'm not sure how much fitness it gives their own players And I guess for FC Rottach-Egern, things can only get better!

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I see Forest Green have now appointed a male coach...