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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 6, 2023 9:31:07 GMT 1
I just ran predicta in Time Machine. I am not going to run it here. I would be happy for there to be no predicta but will still pre-predict the final order when I see the list as well as who took each act.
And yes, of course I also won the event, so it seems there's a link between running predictas and winning, although unlike with Haven Factor, I'd already submitted all my songs up front so it can't have influenced anything. In addition, the predicta itself I came joint first due to pre-predicta which was done right at the start before anyone had predicted. In the main round-by-round event I finished 8 points behind the leader.
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 6, 2023 0:32:37 GMT 1
Mine is Chumbawamba. So I'll have a whisky drink, I'll have a vodka drink, I'll have a lager drink, I'll have a cider drink...
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 5, 2023 23:42:10 GMT 1
I got my first choice so I’m taking a tequila shot (I’m still on holidays btw not a school night) So maybe your act is Terrorvision. But it could be the Champs.
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 5, 2023 23:35:15 GMT 1
Depends if there is going to be a pre-predicta as to what acts will appear. I'm not that certain if we are having a predicta at all, but I always enjoy the "who picked which act" part, as well as "guess where they will finish" as then the primary target is to beat your expected average finish position, which of course I did last time but not in any of the others.
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 5, 2023 21:59:31 GMT 1
The biggest ever hit in my chart by an act from Jamaica, and so possibly considered the biggest ever reggae hit in my chart.
Still it was November 2020 when my retro chart was in that period of 1976 that this song topped my chart so not sure why it was a discovery in 2022.
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 5, 2023 21:55:04 GMT 1
1 ( 1 ) Crazy - Seal < 3rd week at #1 > 2 ( 3 ) Disappear - Inxs 3 ( 5 ) All The Man I Need - Whitney Houston 4 ( 6 ) Sadeness Part 1 - Enigma 5 ( 2 ) Wicked Game - Chris Isaak (#1[1]) 6 ( 11 ) Bring Your Daughter To The Slaughter - Iron Maiden 7 ( 4 ) Freedom ('90) - George Michael (#1[6]) 8 ( -- ) All This Time - Sting 9 ( 7 ) Summer Rain - Belinda Carlisle (#7) 10 ( 10 ) Anything Is Possible - Debbie Gibson 11 ( -- ) Get Here - Oleta Adams 12 ( 22 ) Mercy Mercy Me I Want You - Robert Palmer 13 ( 13 ) Prodigal Blues - Billy Idol 14 ( 15 ) Doctor Jeep - Sisters Of Mercy 15 ( 8 ) Altogether Now - Farm (#6) 16 ( 9 ) My Book - Beautiful South (#8) 17 ( -- ) International Bright Young Thing - Jesus Jones 18 ( 28 ) Jordan - Prefab Sprout 19 ( 12 ) Gonna Make You Sweat - C&C Music Factory (#11) 20 ( -- ) X Y And Zee - Pop Will Eat Itself
21 ( 31 ) Preacher Man - Bananarama 22 ( -- ) Where Does My Heart Beat Now - Céline Dion 23 ( 33 ) Well Did You Evah - Deborah Harry & Iggy Pop 24 ( 23 ) Superficial People - Ten City (#23) 25 ( 24 ) Grease Megamix - John Travolta & Olivia Newton John (#24) 26 ( 20 ) High Tension Line - Fall (#20) 27 ( 16 ) Just Another Dream - Cathy Dennis (#10) 28 ( -- ) All True Man - Alexander O'Neal 29 ( 19 ) I Call Your Name - A-Ha (#17) 30 ( 18 ) Anniversary Waltz Part 2 - Status Quo (#13)
31 ( 30 ) You're Amazing - Robert Palmer (#30) 32 ( 17 ) Kinky Boots - Patrick MacNee & Honor Blackman (#3) 33 ( 25 ) Deal For Life - John Waite (#25) 34 ( 41 ) Got The Time - Anthrax 35 ( 14 ) The Best Christmas Of Them All - Shakin Stevens (#14) 36 ( 29 ) Play That Funky Music - Vanilla Ice (#29) 37 ( 43 ) Calling You - Paul Young 38 ( 21 ) Situation - Yazoo (#9) 39 ( -- ) Breakaway - Donna Summer 40 ( -- ) Miss America - Big Dish
41 ( 48 ) The One To Sing The Blues - Motorhead 42 ( 26 ) Lose Control - James (#15) 43 ( -- ) A Lil' Ain't Enough - David Lee Roth 44 ( 36 ) Keep On Running - Milli Vanilli (#36) 45 ( 32 ) I Can't Say Goodbye - Kim Wilde (#29) 46 ( 38 ) Crazy Party Mixes - Jive Bunny (#38) 47 ( -- ) Twice As Hard - Black Crowes 48 ( -- ) Don't Believe Her - Scorpions 49 ( -- ) I Saw Red - Warrant 50 ( 39 ) Helping Hand - Arthur Miles (#34)
-- ( 27 ) Saviour's Day - Cliff Richard (#22) -- ( 34 ) Justify My Love - Madonna (#8) -- ( 35 ) Send A Prayer (To Heaven) - Errol Brown (#24) -- ( 37 ) Easier To Walk Away - Elton John (#19) -- ( 40 ) Progressive Logic - Nexus 21 (#33) -- ( 42 ) Being Boring - Pet Shop Boys (#5) -- ( 44 ) After The Rain - Nelson (#30) -- ( 45 ) Are You Dreaming? - Twenty 4 Seven ft Captain Hollywood (#3) -- ( 46 ) Little Fluffy Clouds - Orb (#10) -- ( 47 ) I'm In The Mood For Love - Lord Tanamo (#22) -- ( 49 ) A Better Love - Londonbeat (#13) -- ( 50 ) Unbelievable - EMF (#2[2])
New year and 12 new entries. 1991 will explode in March. But January and February are relatively quiet with one absolute monster coming in a couple of weeks.
I always found first few weeks of the year were a good time for the underdog to release singles, so not only do Iron Maiden have a number one single but the songs by Jesus Jones and Pop Will Eat Itself were UK hits, both entering inside the top 20.
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 5, 2023 18:07:15 GMT 1
I wonder how many Haven Darlings will be on the list.
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 5, 2023 15:28:57 GMT 1
1 May 1982
1 ( 3 ) Only You - Yazoo < 1st #1 > 2 ( 1 ) Night Birds - Shakatak (#1[3]) 3 ( 2 ) I Won't Let You Down - PhD (#2[2]) 4 ( 4 ) Fantastic Day - Haircut 100 5 ( 5 ) Papa's Got A Brand New Pigbag - Pigbag 6 ( 7 ) Promised You A Miracle - Simple Minds 7 ( 10 ) Instinction - Spandau Ballet 8 ( 12 ) View From A Bridge - Kim Wilde 9 ( 15 ) Girl Crazy - Hot Chocolate 10 ( 19 ) Black Coffee In Bed - Squeeze 11 ( 21 ) Talk Talk - Talk Talk 12 ( 23 ) Forget Me Nots - Patrice Rushen 13 ( 6 ) I Ran - A Flock Of Seagulls (#3) 14 ( -- ) Fantasy Island - Tight Fit 15 ( 8 ) More Than This - Roxy Music (#7) 16 ( 11 ) Ebony And Ivory - Paul McCartney & Stevie Wonder (#11) 17 ( -- ) Heat Of The Moment - Asia 18 ( 14 ) This Time (We'll Get It Right) - England World Cup Squad (#14) 19 ( 13 ) Mama Used to Say - Junior (#13) 20 ( 16 ) One Step Further - Bardo (#16)
21 ( 9 ) Ain't No Pleasing You - Chas & Dave (#1[2]) 22 ( 33 ) Stand Or Fall - Fixx 23 ( 25 ) Stay - Barry Manilow 24 ( 20 ) Really Saying Something - Bananarama (#20) 25 ( 27 ) Empty Garden - Elton John 26 ( 37 ) La Folie - Stranglers 27 ( -- ) We Have A Dream - Scotland World Cup Squad 28 ( 29 ) God's Kitchen - Blancmange 29 ( 18 ) Ever So Lonely - Monsoon (#15) 30 ( 24 ) Cat People (Putting Out Fire) - David Bowie (#24)
31 ( -- ) Perfumed Garden - Rah Band 32 ( 17 ) My Camera Never Lies - Bucks Fizz (#6) 33 ( -- ) Tottenham Tottenham - Tottenham Hotspur FA Cup Final Squad 34 ( 36 ) Shout Shout (Knock Yourself Out) - Rocky Sharpe & The Replays 35 ( -- ) Body Language - Queen 36 ( 35 ) Still In Saigon - Charlie Daniels Band (#35) 37 ( -- ) See Jungle - Bow Wow Wow 38 ( 38 ) Save It For Later - Beat 39 ( -- ) My Girl - Donnie Iris 40 ( 22 ) Edge Of Seventeen - Stevie Nicks (#2[1])
41 ( 31 ) Beatles Movie Medley - Beatles (#29) 42 ( -- ) Fantasy - Aldo Nova 43 ( 49 ) Shanghai Breezes - John Denver 44 ( 32 ) The Other Woman - Ray Parker Jr (#30) 45 ( -- ) Nobody - Toni Basil 46 ( 40 ) Hang Fire - Rolling Stones (#40) 47 ( 26 ) Ghosts - Japan (#3) 48 ( 28 ) Celtic Soul Brothers - Dexy's Midnight Runners (#8) 49 ( 30 ) I've Never Been To Me - Charlene (#13) 50 ( -- ) Know Your Rights - Clash
-- ( 34 ) Blue Eyes - Elton John (#15) -- ( 39 ) Did It In A Minute - Daryl Hall & John Oates (#27) -- ( 41 ) Your Honour - Pluto Shervington (#5) -- ( 42 ) I Can Make You Feel Good - Shalamar (#19) -- ( 43 ) See You - Depeche Mode (#1[2]) -- ( 44 ) Stone Cold - Rainbow (#35) -- ( 45 ) Give Me Back My Heart - Dollar (#21) -- ( 46 ) Ball And Chain - XTC (#24) -- ( 47 ) A Celebration - U2 (#39) -- ( 48 ) See Those Eyes - Altered Images (#22) -- ( 50 ) A New Fashion - Bill Wyman (#9)
-- ( -- ) Man On Your Mind - Little River Band -- ( -- ) Got No Brains - Bad Manners -- ( -- ) It's Gonna Take A Miracle - Deniece Williams -- ( -- ) Thank You For The Party - Dukes -- ( -- ) Our Love - Elkie Brooks -- ( -- ) Wake Up Little Susie - Simon & Garfunkel -- ( -- ) Switched On Swing - Kings Of Swing Orchestra
After Vince Clarke left Depeche Mode they went on to get to NM #1, but now Vince has duplicated that feat with Yazoo, his duet with Alison Moyet (Alf) on vocal. Usually when a significant member leaves a band, both parts do worse, but this is the rare occasion that both parts have done better.
So what exactly are Tight Fit? Last year in the medley craze they came up with "Back To The Sixties" which for a new generation was quite a good medley of some of the bigger hits of that decade, and they did a part 2.
Then time to move on - people were bored of medleys, so just a straight cover version, and put 3 people on the stage even though they weren't actually singing on it.
And then, hey, how about we actually do get them to sing on their next single? As big fans of the 60s they obviously knew a popular way to get a hit back then was to take a foreign language song and translate it to English. Fantasy Island started off as a Dutch contender for Eurovision that wasn't selected and it obviously worked well for this purpose. Nobody had heard of the original and it came across as an authentic band now doing a new song.
The second entry, Heat Of The Moment by Asia, and the British progressive/AOR mix of bands that came up, often just a number of musicians getting together, in this case from Yes and King Crimson with Geoff Downes from the Buggles also involved, and later on GTR would be another such super-group. They generally sold more albums than singles in the UK but would often have hit singles in the USA. "Heat Of The Moment" reached #4 in the Billboard Hot 100.
Two football songs, "We Have A Dream" and "Tottenham Tottenham". Sporting achievements will be done later but Steve Archibald played for Spurs and Scotland so is technically in both songs. The real people behind it are BA Robertson and Chas & Dave, so proper musicians, and with Clare Grogan having had hits with Altered Images, it was the turn of John Gordon Sinclair from Gregory's Girl now, only he couldn't sing so he narrated to it, with B.A. Robertson himself providing a few sung vocals.
All of those, as well as the RAH Band, enter ahead of a rather dire effort by Queen's standards.
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 4, 2023 21:01:02 GMT 1
I still scream uncontrollably at the Sam Fender/Metric tie sing off situation. If it happens again, I will also be screaming uncontrollably unless one of the acts is UB40. Then if it happens again, they're leaving...
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 4, 2023 20:47:10 GMT 1
An Amelia Lily style appearance. I think she was in Round 1 when each mentor voted out one of their acts. Then when one of them was disqualified she was brought back in and ended up finishing 3rd or 4th, I can't quite remember.
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 4, 2023 19:13:37 GMT 1
Anybody mentioned the Bon Jovi situation yet, if they do you have to DRINK! I'm not traumatised by "Someday I'll Be Saturday Night" (or "If You Really Love Me") getting into a sing-off anymore, given my performance in the last HF. If either of those had just got a few more points and survived, I may have gone a lot of rounds further and they wouldn't have been disasters. Maybe I was just lucky with Elvis Costello in the way I was unlucky with those two? Certainly I was on the round I played "Carpetbaggers".
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 4, 2023 17:55:52 GMT 1
I'm still traumatised by 'Face To Face' bombing the way it did I still scream uncontrollably at the Sam Fender/Metric tie sing off situation. I do too, mostly about panicking and changing my song when I knew it was going to be double-elimination from 6. If I played that last contest again I'd change the one with Jenny Lewis for "Sulky Girl" and have Veronica in the round where it was intended and Oliver's Army at the end, otherwise I chose well each round.
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 4, 2023 17:53:48 GMT 1
I assume those who sent their entries early will have to send them again tomorrow after 5pm or they will get pushed to the bottom of the queue.
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 4, 2023 11:49:11 GMT 1
Oh so I guess we vote by giving points to each song and mentors of those 4 acts have to vote for the other 3 and not their own.
But you still have a 50% chance of survival, and also if you're in the bottom 2 in round 1 you don't participate in round 2 (which saves you a song, but obviously you wouldn't want to be there).
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 4, 2023 10:52:22 GMT 1
It isn't really different from having 2 regular sing-offs in the first two rounds, but a slight advantage now of getting in the first round sing-off (compared to previously) as you skip round 2 before your sing-off, whereas normally if you win your first round sing-off you have to compete in round 2.
Either case you have 50% chance of getting through the 4-track sing-off, the same as a regular one.
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 4, 2023 9:53:03 GMT 1
I have many backup choices but I prefer to submit one, and if I don't get that one you come back to me and I select others until I get one.
So far I have never failed to get my initial choice.
With 4 acts double-elimination are we going to select one to save or two? I found when I did the "non-hit single of the month" polls there was no way to force users to select more than 1 (so mentors may choose to vote only for their own as it increases their chances) but the rest of us could have 2 as an option.
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 3, 2023 15:19:35 GMT 1
24 April 1982
1 ( 1 ) Night Birds - Shakatak < 3rd week at #1 > 2 ( 2 ) I Won't Let You Down - PhD 3 ( 9 ) Only You - Yazoo 4 ( 6 ) Fantastic Day - Haircut 100 5 ( 5 ) Papa's Got A Brand New Pigbag - Pigbag 6 ( 3 ) I Ran - A Flock Of Seagulls (#3) 7 ( 8 ) Promised You A Miracle - Simple Minds 8 ( 7 ) More Than This - Roxy Music (#7) 9 ( 4 ) Ain't No Pleasing You - Chas & Dave (#1[2]) 10 ( 19 ) Instinction - Spandau Ballet
11 ( 12 ) Ebony And Ivory - Paul McCartney & Stevie Wonder 12 ( 23 ) View From A Bridge - Kim Wilde 13 ( 14 ) Mama Used to Say - Junior 14 ( 17 ) This Time (We'll Get It Right) - England World Cup Squad 15 ( 27 ) Girl Crazy - Hot Chocolate 16 ( 20 ) One Step Further - Bardo 17 ( 10 ) My Camera Never Lies - Bucks Fizz (#6) 18 ( 15 ) Ever So Lonely - Monsoon (#15) 19 ( -- ) Black Coffee In Bed - Squeeze 20 ( 22 ) Really Saying Something - Bananarama
21 ( -- ) Talk Talk - Talk Talk 22 ( 11 ) Edge Of Seventeen - Stevie Nicks (#2[1]) 23 ( -- ) Forget Me Nots - Patrice Rushen 24 ( 26 ) Cat People (Putting Out Fire) - David Bowie 25 ( 36 ) Stay - Barry Manilow 26 ( 13 ) Ghosts - Japan (#3) 27 ( 38 ) Empty Garden - Elton John 28 ( 16 ) Celtic Soul Brothers - Dexy's Midnight Runners (#8) 29 ( 39 ) God's Kitchen - Blancmange 30 ( 18 ) I've Never Been To Me - Charlene (#13)
31 ( 29 ) Beatles Movie Medley - Beatles (#29) 32 ( 30 ) The Other Woman - Ray Parker Jr (#30) 33 ( -- ) Stand Or Fall - Fixx 34 ( 21 ) Blue Eyes - Elton John (#15) 35 ( 44 ) Still In Saigon - Charlie Daniels Band 36 ( 47 ) Shout Shout (Knock Yourself Out) - Rocky Sharpe & The Replays 37 ( -- ) La Folie - Stranglers 38 ( 49 ) Save It For Later - Beat 39 ( 31 ) Did It In A Minute - Daryl Hall & John Oates (#27) 40 ( 42 ) Hang Fire - Rolling Stones
41 ( 24 ) Your Honour - Pluto Shervington (#5) 42 ( 28 ) I Can Make You Feel Good - Shalamar (#19) 43 ( 25 ) See You - Depeche Mode (#1[2]) 44 ( 37 ) Stone Cold - Rainbow (#35) 45 ( 32 ) Give Me Back My Heart - Dollar (#21) 46 ( 34 ) Ball And Chain - XTC (#24) 47 ( 41 ) A Celebration - U2 (#39) 48 ( 35 ) See Those Eyes - Altered Images (#22) 49 ( -- ) Shanghai Breezes - John Denver 50 ( 33 ) A New Fashion - Bill Wyman (#9)
-- ( 40 ) Nowhere Girl - B-Movie (#30) -- ( 43 ) Poison Arrow - ABC (#2[2]) -- ( 45 ) No One Like You - Scorpions (#42) -- ( 46 ) Magnum P.I. - Mike Post (#43) -- ( 48 ) Amour Amour - Mobiles (#35) -- ( 50 ) Klactoveesedstein - Blue Rondo A La Turk (#7)
-- ( -- ) The Honeydripper - Jets -- ( -- ) Run For The Roses - Dan Fogelberg -- ( -- ) Suspicious Minds - Candi Staton -- ( -- ) Shirley - Shakin' Stevens -- ( -- ) If I Had My Wish Tonight - David Lasley -- ( -- ) The Song That I Sing - Stutz Bearcats
Not a big week for entries, in fact Squeeze was only placed 10th on the playlist with most of the big ones being in 2 weeks time.
We do get the eponymous debut from Talk Talk, the Patrice Rushen song that was first sampled at the end of "Fastlove" by George Michael and then the whole tune used for "Men In Black" by Will Smith, which reached #1 in the UK in 1996 and 1997 respectively, and The Fixx had a couple of minor UK hits before disappearing but emerging big in the USA when that was over. Between "Golden Brown" and "Strange Little Girl" the Stranglers released "La Folie", a song in French.
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 3, 2023 13:22:04 GMT 1
Spotify is based on listens, not purchases as the chart used to be. For example, I bought a lot of albums in 1995, possibly more than in any other year, but definitely listened to "Jagged Little Pill" and "(What's The Story) Morning Glory" more than many of the others. OF course, those two were massive sellers, but I personally only contributed 1 sale to each, not one for each time I listened to them.
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 3, 2023 12:50:15 GMT 1
I am saying that in the past the struggle for the artist was to get a record deal to get their music released and accessible to the public at all.
With the ability now for artists to record their music and make it available, the struggle is getting people to know about it.
Actually, that was an issue before. There was loads of music released in the past that flopped, not necessarily because the public didn't like it, but because they never got to know it existed.
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Post by Earl Purple on Jan 3, 2023 10:10:49 GMT 1
We don't need a "record industry" we don't need "record labels" anymore. Artists can go into a recording studio, record their music and get it on streaming platforms (and download platforms if anyone cares) and make videos and put them on youtube.
At least that is how it should have been since 2007 / 2014.
But of course those who didn't want to lose out on the money they were getting had to find a way around it. Well of course some of them invested in the streaming platforms, but it appears that what the artists still needed was publicity and promotion, and unless you were "signed up" to such a "label" you wouldn't get any.
It's now also getting onto Spotify's "playlists".
Or getting mentioned on new release lists.
And of course the BBC's wonderful "list".
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